im looking into some b18 type r engine swap for my 00 civic ex. im also swapping the transmision to a manual and working on the exhaust and suspension. im trying to get as much money as i can but i can get the b18 swap with transmisson and everything else with installation for around 5.5-6.0k.

Im not sure if i should just push it though and try to go for a k20 engine. i know theres a big difference in money, but which engine will trully give me the best bang for my buck??

i know i will probably spend more in the end working with the b18 by adding performance parts or maybe even a turbo when i might be able to just slightly mod the k20 and have plenty more power at around the same cost.

Is the k20 easier to mainain?? is it more rare to find pieces??
looking for some power and reliability here

 

both have power and reliability, but depends on your funds as well as what your goals for this car are going to be. drag/autox/fun dd/etc.

 

I was in your same predicament a few months ago.
Rather than suggest what you should do, I will tell you what I did and why.

What: I got a B18C full swap (with transmission, LSD etc).
Why: because of the couple grand I saved, but especially because I didn't like the swap process for the K series. I always felt it's a bit of a hack (custom motor mounts, all the hacking needed for things like the shifter, etc).

Sure, the K seems to be the choice nowadays and as far as I understand it responds to simple bolt-ons extremely well, but I love how the B18C just dropped right in and looks like it belongs there. It is an amazing engine and now I can pass cars on the highway. It also pulls nicely when I want to screw around.

Good luck with your choice.

 

at the end of the day k is going to cost MUCH more then you think man.

B-Series FTW....sheeeiiit, for that much dough I'd but a $700 b20 and boost it to the moon.

 

Man go H-series best bang for your buck

 

Yeah ive been looking at complete engine swaps for the B18 Type R's for around 4.5k and ive noticed the K-series are a bit harder to install and cost alot more.
Im looking for something that will be very fun to drive but yet will still be my daily driver.
Im still not sure if I want to get a B18 or a K20 though because i would really like a good tune so that i can bump up the psi and be happy with 300hp.(not all the time, maybe just for the highway =D lol)
I know this would be an easy achivement with the k20 but i also know that i would probably have to do some major tunning to the B18 so i can have it tuned to that much power.
remember this is for my 00 civic ex, auto transmission, so i will be spending another grand or so on swapping the transmission and trying to work on suspension.
right now the B18 sounds like the ideal engine to go with but i dont really want to turbo it to get that much power because in the long run, turbos require ALOT of money and maintaince, what else could i do on a budget to achieve a monstrous 300hp B18?? or would it be better just to go with the K20??

 

So im doing an engine swap on my automatic 00 civic ex, now hold on! before u say anything. YES! I AM SWAPPING THE TRANSMISSION ALSO so its fine ha.

But what im looking to get here is a good performance engine that is also reliable enough to be my daily driver. I dont want to have it constantly running around 300hp, thats just when im looking for trouble .

Anyways, ive narrowed this down to a complete B18-type R (98 integra) engine swap. cost- around $4.5k
Im not sure what else i can really do to make this engine achieve 300hp, i dont really wana turbo charge it because of its excessive maintainence requirements and the cost in the long run.
at the moment im not really that interested in nitros either but maybe later on .

So what can i do to make this get up to around 300hp with a good tune??

or would it be better just to go with a K20A or K20A2 engine swap??

 

K20 probably but do some research around this forum ans see what other people have done. I am gonna get a type r for my DC2 prob at tax time this coming jan. I will prob just be happy with the 200 hp

 

yeah 300hp is kinda a long stretch for me too, thats why i wana have that to its max tune. I think i would be plentyfull happy with around 250hp so im really starting to think that i might just go with a B18, solely based on financing issues.

 

I'm cheap bro! Imo, save the cash and just boost an Ls.

 

H22a call it a day. all day everyday.

i don't think you can get any street legal honda to 300hp without boost.

 

you need two posts why?

you also can't just turn off 300 hp.
either its lame till boost kicks in or its sorta lame til you hit the nitrous button.
or you somehow got an NA 300hp beast which will always be there.

oh and again h22a.

 

Honestly, good luck pushing 200+ hp.

 

x2 supposedly you can get a k motor to that power or close to it, but with that much money your going to burn a hole in your pockets for sure. you wanna make 300hp, just go B18 LS motor with turbo. done deal.

 

N/A X2.

 

So im thinking B18 is definitely the way to go on this according to my budget (5.5-6k)
Are there any other small or medium mods i can do to raise the hp to as close as 300hp as possible?? What kind of pistons would be best for this?

 

yeah sorry, im kinda new to this whole site ha, just making sure it was working.

So What about if i wanted to hit around 250-275hp without turbo or nitro?
What parts would be best to replace with better performances pieces?

 

LOL
iv seen so many of these threads lately
save your thoughts and please dont rice out your car

But if it REALLY does happen GL

 

nitrous

 

so alot of people are telling me to either go H22 or B18GSR. Ive noticed both engines are quite cheaper. Im not too sure about going with tan H22 though for my 00 civic ex just because of the difficulty of the installation and the lack of acceleration compared to the B18 type R or GSR. Im still debating which one would be best to go with to try to get max hp with a good tune? Since the GSR is so much cheaper, i might even be able to boost it and get my 250-300hp?? =D still not sure though cause the JDM B18 Type-R is a damn goos engine for just being stock, it would still have alot of potential left but at the cost... please help

 

Rhetorical question. There is no "answer" to what you are asking. Bottom line is everyone is gonna have there own opinion, there is no progression from this thread.

 

You don't need multiple threads.

 

This is NOT an attack nor am I singling you out.

Even if the engine you buy has low miles, just remember that the youngest B series motor is now 10 years old. Don't think for a minute that you are going to buy the engine and just swap it in, at least the low balling half *** enthusiasts do it this way. You have to keep in mind all the consumable parts that need to be replaced.

Timing belt
water pump
timing belt tensioner
valve cover gasket and grommet set
cam plug seal
cap and rotor
spark plugs and wires
axle seals
possible clutch
hoses, belts
the list goes on

My engine was a 94 so I replaced just about everything on it and spent well over $1,000 but my swap is BUG FREE and has been shaken down.

Save money do it right the 1st time, especially while the engine is out of the vehicle!

BTW, I wished I have been a little more patient and went with a K series, just 5 weeks after I finished my swap I had a K20Z3 for $1800 less than my 94 B18C and the cash for all the associated parts including AC and power steering.

 

yeah ive put some thought into this and my friend has told me before, if i want to do an engine swap then i have to do it right. meaning, i can just half *** this and barely make the cut. im trying to acculuate as much money as i can and i think in the end ill be on a 6-7k budget? I also need to swap out the transmission so thats why i am not going with a K-series, it is just way too out of my reach and the installation would be a pain in the *** for my 00 civic. (im having a buddy install the engine with my help for around $500) ive looked at H22's but eh, im just not interested. Now im down to my 2 final options, i could get a good GSR engine swap and still have enough money to even start modding it or i could go with the Type-R and have everything done right. soooo confused...

 

Not trying to be be an A$$
but you should probably be doing a lot of studying and research while your saving up, Because it doesnt sound like you know to much about your motors.