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Old May 8, 2011 | 07:24 PM
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Default h23 blue top ef h2b track vids. opinions needed

well finnally got to the track sat. not happy with my 60foots heres the build
1991 ef hatch full interior full trim. no gutting
bone stock 98 blue top h23 vtec
fake rmf header
h2b quarter kit
4.7 final drive
gsr trans with welded diff
custom intake
410 rdx inj
74mm pos blox pos tbi
hondata s300
street tuned
23.5x8x13 hoosier slicks

my best time was
60foot:1.91
1/4 mile:13.1
mph:102

i was thinking stiffer rear springs????






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Old May 8, 2011 | 07:33 PM
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I think you should look into more tuning, you trapped such a low MPH.
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Old May 8, 2011 | 07:42 PM
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I think you should look into more tuning, you trapped such a low MPH.
yah i want to mess with my cam timing. im about to post a vid
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Old May 8, 2011 | 07:49 PM
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Dyno tune it.

Get a good alignment and corner balance it if you can.

practice, practice.
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Old May 8, 2011 | 08:02 PM
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Try a taller 1st Gear 3.07
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incar video i forgot to set the resolution to night srry.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDUmoclWoJ4

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDxZzbVYhM4

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Old May 8, 2011 | 08:04 PM
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Link to vid isnt working.
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Old May 8, 2011 | 08:04 PM
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Dyno tune it.

Get a good alignment and corner balance it if you can.

practice, practice.
thanks for the advice it has a camber kit and was aligned a day before track. wats corner balance?
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Old May 8, 2011 | 08:09 PM
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hey thats my old intake mani lol. you seem to be running alright for your mph. I think your setup is definitely down on power, your car should be trapping at least 106mph. what is the car tuned on? how much ignition timing is it running in the top end and how high are you reving it too? I ran 13.2 on crappy street tires in my old h2b ef sedan.
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Old May 8, 2011 | 08:11 PM
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thanks for the advice it has a camber kit and was aligned a day before track. wats corner balance?
You know the settings?

Corner balancing is when you put scales under each tire and weigh it and balance the car.

http://www.scottgood.com/jsg/blog.ns...ks/SGOD-6B9PFW
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also are your slicks for road racing? I ran the 21.5" slicks I got off a ebay seller for cheap and couldn't break any better then a 1.91 60' last time I was at the track.
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Old May 8, 2011 | 08:15 PM
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Dyno tune for sure and what rpm where you launching/shifting at?
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Originally Posted by LovemyEKhatch
Link to vid isnt working.
there fixed now. u can here the import haters on the one video coughing like my rev limiter.
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Old May 8, 2011 | 08:32 PM
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Dyno tune for sure and what rpm where you launching/shifting at?
im 360lb guy so balancing might be tough lol im not sure on alignent settings the guy owns a alignment shop and is a good friend and knows im dragging the car.

and yes its your old manifold lol small world and the tires are drag slicks and i played with tire press and 8 psi hot worked best. im launching car at 6200 and shifting at 8200.

i had the afrs at 13.8 from vtec to redline it ran 13.4 i put them at 13.2afr and the car went 13.2 and then iput them to 12.9afr and it went 13.1

my timing is synced with the hondata and i had my total at 37 with 110 race gas. i tried less timing but car would feel empty.
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my old H liked to run pretty rich at around 12.5 to 1. and damn 360lbs your a big boy, whats the car weigh with you in it?
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Don't burn in the water box. What's your trap mph? You seem to shift in 4th very late.. Seems like the 23.5 is too tall even with your 4.7 FD.
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Old May 9, 2011 | 05:43 AM
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What gear are you burning out in?
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Default Re: h23 blue top ef h2b track vids. opinions needed

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my old H liked to run pretty rich at around 12.5 to 1. and damn 360lbs your a big boy, whats the car weigh with you in it?
im going to try richening the tune up sat. cause the richer i went the faster it got. i just didnt have enought time fri. i need dyno but ohwell. the car is heavy still has the bumper braces front and rear. im doing a burnout in 2nd
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Don't burn in the water box. What's your trap mph? You seem to shift in 4th very late.. Seems like the 23.5 is too tall even with your 4.7 FD.
8th mile i trapped 82.66mph

1/4 mile i trapped 102.86mph
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im going to try richening the tune up sat. cause the richer i went the faster it got. i just didnt have enought time fri. i need dyno but ohwell. the car is heavy still has the bumper braces front and rear. im doing a burnout in 2nd
Do some tunning at the track and see if u can squeeze some more mph out of it!
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Old May 9, 2011 | 01:47 PM
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Def. Tune.... it seems like it wants to stall upon idle jump?
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Old May 9, 2011 | 06:42 PM
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You should be in the mid 12s with that...some m&h 23" slicks and gut the interior and a better tune and you will hit no prob.......what's your whp?

Local here has a h2b eg gutted with bolt ons and a lsd type r trans with 22" slicks he ran 12.5 with 199whp, he now has bigger tb and s2 intake mani and 23" slicks at 218whp, should hit 12.1 or faster
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You should be in the mid 12s with that...some m&h 23" slicks and gut the interior and a better tune and you will hit no prob.......what's your whp?

Local here has a h2b eg gutted with bolt ons and a lsd type r trans with 22" slicks he ran 12.5 with 199whp, he now has bigger tb and s2 intake mani and 23" slicks at 218whp, should hit 12.1 or faster
oh hi there lol! must be me your talking about
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Old May 9, 2011 | 08:04 PM
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Def. Tune.... it seems like it wants to stall upon idle jump?
it doesnt stall i think the vid does it no justice and the pos blox throttle body sucks **** and sticks. im going back sat to a different track and going to try different stuff with the tune. i dont have a dyno within 3 hours of me. im a lowner in the middle of v8 ville... oh btw im not running at sea level. seems all the builders here have probs going fast n/a
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Old May 9, 2011 | 09:37 PM
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I have always noticed on my stock h setups that if you let the slicks down that far it kills you traps like running on flat tires on the other end. i beat if you ran street tires you could still get that sixty foot and ad 4 miles an hour to your trap. Im not saying the end result will be faster times with the street tires because i beleive if you put the slicks to around 12-14 and did a second gear burn out it would run 12s. All my stock h series motors just didnt have the power to pull them slicks that low on the other end of the track. One setup actually run the same thing with slicks as street tires for this same reason. It just takes practice man and getting everything setup right but im sure you will get it . try putting a little more air in the slicks , lowering the launch limiter (h series have plenty of tourqe you can leave at 5,600 rpms and not bog the motor ),doing a second gear burn out and you will see better results. Also its best to let the slicks spin a little out the whole not hook completely it keeps the rpms up. Im sure you will get it the only thing that concerns me is the trap because that dont lie lol . I think your slicks that low on a stock motor is whats killing your traps.
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