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Old Apr 25, 2011 | 08:33 AM
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Default Blox HSL Competition Cam.

Just picked up a set of these can
Anyone chime me in on the numbers they mad
And corresponding set ups
Also pros & cons?

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Old Apr 25, 2011 | 08:44 AM
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At LEAST 50whp. Depending on ambient temperature, elevation, your other modifications.

Corresponding setups? Most reputable builders in here wouldn't put blox cams in their engines if you gave them to them.

pros?
Better than oem, maybe.

cons?
It's a cam. Made by blox.
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Old Apr 25, 2011 | 03:35 PM
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Default Re: Blox HSL Competition Cam.

Originally Posted by ek forever guy
At LEAST 50whp. Depending on ambient temperature, elevation, your other modifications.

Corresponding setups? Most reputable builders in here wouldn't put blox cams in their engines if you gave them to them.

pros?
Better than oem, maybe.

cons?
It's a cam. Made by blox.
I/h/e.... Compression etc, blox and skunk2 are supposed to be coming out of the sane factory nowadays I've heard of fools making 230 on these, just heard you need tuning, just like with anything else
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Old Apr 25, 2011 | 03:37 PM
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Old Apr 25, 2011 | 05:47 PM
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Default Re: Blox HSL Competition Cam.

Originally Posted by ek forever guy
At LEAST 50whp. Depending on ambient temperature, elevation, your other modifications.

Corresponding setups? Most reputable builders in here wouldn't put blox cams in their engines if you gave them to them.

pros?
Better than oem, maybe.

cons?
It's a cam. Made by blox.
They're Toda C copies (I THINK). *Edit Skunk2 Stage 3s

I don't know where this comes from.....So, are you just jumping on the "every knockoff is sh*t" bandwagon, or are you basing this opinion on anything worthwhile?

I PERSONALLY take issue with BLOX cams b/c of their "R&D". They take cams that companies have researched and developed and make a straight copy of them. All you need to do to make a good quality cam is buy a quality blank and use a good cam grinder. It's not rocket science. The question of whether or not they'll perform well in an engine is answered by the performance of the parent design.

Lots of people have used BLOX cams with positive results. You buy BLOX, you're paying for lift & duration. I wouldn't expect their support to know much in the way of actually DESIGNING a cam.

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Old Apr 25, 2011 | 05:51 PM
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Default Re: Blox HSL Competition Cam.

I'm not saying the cams will fall apart. I'm more basing it on the fact that they are just knockoffs and if you wanted good customer support you probably can't get it.
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Old Apr 25, 2011 | 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by ek forever guy
I'm not saying the cams will fall apart. I'm more basing it on the fact that they are just knockoffs and if you wanted good customer support you probably can't get it.
Well, if that's what you mean....then SAY that. Your reply was ambiguous at best. You just said no builder would use them w/o any reason for that, leaving it open for interpretation.
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Old Apr 25, 2011 | 07:59 PM
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Default Re: Blox HSL Competition Cam.

Originally Posted by C_Rock77
They're Toda C copies (I THINK).

I don't know where this comes from.....So, are you just jumping on the "every knockoff is sh*t" bandwagon, or are you basing this opinion on anything worthwhile?

I PERSONALLY take issue with BLOX cams b/c of their "R&D". They take cams that companies have researched and developed and make a straight copy of them. All you need to do to make a good quality cam is buy a quality blank and use a good cam grinder. It's not rocket science. The question of whether or not they'll perform well in an engine is answered by the performance of the parent design.

Lots of people have used BLOX cams with positive results. You buy BLOX, you're paying for lift & duration. I wouldn't expect their support to know much in the way of actually DESIGNING a cam.
I heard that their closest comparison are skunk2 stage 3 BUT I've heard of people measuring the HSL and it having it's own cam profile, not a copy...
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Old Apr 25, 2011 | 08:18 PM
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Not Toda C copy.
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Old Apr 25, 2011 | 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by clean rice
Not Toda C copy.
I stand corrected. LOL. It was Rocket that said that to me. What are they copies of?

*edit Oooh...Lookie what I found.

Originally Posted by clean rice
Blox HSL's=S2S3's.
Originally Posted by clean rice
They've been degree'd and everything, same ramp angles and lift/duration. Contact Tbone or DonF, they will back me up on this...they are the same cam.
I DO stand corrected.
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Old Apr 26, 2011 | 04:19 AM
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Originally Posted by C_Rock77
I stand corrected. LOL. It was Rocket that said that to me. What are they copies of?

*edit Oooh...Lookie what I found.




I DO stand corrected.
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Old May 2, 2011 | 08:01 AM
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Default Re: Blox HSL Competition Cam.

If choosing camshaft from below brand, which one will you guy choose?

1) skunk2
2) bc
3) BLOX
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Old May 2, 2011 | 08:32 AM
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Default Re: Blox HSL Competition Cam.

Originally Posted by jackiewogn518
If choosing camshaft from below brand, which one will you guy choose?

1) skunk2
2) bc
3) BLOX
Are you asking which brand you'd choose or which manufacturer of cam for a specific build?
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Old May 2, 2011 | 09:36 AM
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Default Re: Blox HSL Competition Cam.

Originally Posted by jackiewogn518
If choosing camshaft from below brand, which one will you guy choose?

1) skunk2
2) bc
3) BLOX
Skunk2 duh, sucks cause I found slunk2 stage 3 cams for the same price
I picked up my hsl's just a week after
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Old May 2, 2011 | 09:40 AM
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Default Re: Blox HSL Competition Cam.

I have the HSL's. You need a decent exhaust to make power with them. I made 199whp on B18Cr with CTR pistons on E85.
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Old May 2, 2011 | 10:05 AM
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Default Re: Blox HSL Competition Cam.

hehe.. blox, i know some cams that would probably shat on them.
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Old May 2, 2011 | 10:19 AM
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Default Re: Blox HSL Competition Cam.

Originally Posted by jackiewogn518
If choosing camshaft from below brand, which one will you guy choose?

1) skunk2
2) bc
3) BLOX
Probably none of the above.

Toda is probably the only cam I'd put in my b18c5.
Didn't have any bad experiences with skunk2, just dont' trust their engineering anymore.

If I had a $400 beater and wanted a cam, ya, I'd throw a blox cam in there...why not...
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Old May 2, 2011 | 10:48 AM
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Buddy club believer here. Spec 4's are my personal fave. Pro series are good too.
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Old May 2, 2011 | 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by ALL M0T0R
hehe.. blox, i know some cams that would probably shat on them.
what are your cams called btw...
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Old May 2, 2011 | 11:16 AM
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I ran blox type b's cams for 2 years. NEVER had a problem with them. When I took them out they were still in good shape. I honestly think people just hop on the blox are **** bandwagon & belive what everyone says about the "failure" of the cams. Everyone talks **** about em, but who even runs them? I see alot of people say they are junk, but never seen a statement to back it up.
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Old May 2, 2011 | 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by DA 4 Lyfe
I ran blox type b's cams for 2 years. NEVER had a problem with them. When I took them out they were still in good shape. I honestly think people just hop on the blox are **** bandwagon & belive what everyone says about the "failure" of the cams. Everyone talks **** about em, but who even runs them? I see alot of people say they are junk, but never seen a statement to back it up.
To clarify, people say they're junk because they have little or no technical/customer support. They put ZERO research and development into any of their cams and merely copy other PROVEN cam manufacturers profiles like skunk. If you buy stolen stereo gear off of someone that was a good brand name, it isn't "junk" but ethically, purchasing anything stolen leaves a bad taste in peoples mouths. Supporting Blox is like supporting car theives... you get good stuff for cheap but at everyone's expense ultimately.
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Old May 2, 2011 | 03:59 PM
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Default Re: Blox HSL Competition Cam.

So what Blox is doing is against the law?
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Old May 2, 2011 | 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by 96dxB16
So what Blox is doing is against the law?
what law would that be?
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Old May 2, 2011 | 08:58 PM
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i ran a set 5 years ago on an 85x89mm motor at 13:0 compression. made 236whp and 161wtq. they have potential. sure there not name brand but there not junk either... and for the record i replaced them with buddyclub 5's then pro 2's on the same motor but at 12.3:1 compression. and they made more power.
blox hsl 236whp/161wtq on 13:0 cr
buddy club V i made 220whp/158wtq 11.8:1 cr
pro 2 made 229.8whp/154wtq 12.3:1 cr
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Old May 2, 2011 | 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by teg_racer
i ran a set 5 years ago on an 85x89mm motor at 13:0 compression. made 236whp and 161wtq. they have potential. sure there not name brand but there not junk either... and for the record i replaced them with buddyclub 5's then pro 2's on the same motor but at 12.3:1 compression. and they made more power.
blox hsl 236whp/161wtq on 13:0 cr
buddy club V i made 220whp/158wtq 11.8:1 cr
pro 2 made 229.8whp/154wtq 12.3:1 cr
That's probably because the Pro2s are a smaller cam than the HSLs/Stage3s.

The operative question would be whether or not the Pro2s made a better overall power/torque curve than the HSLs and with which setup the car was faster.

I'd be willing to bet the car would be faster on Pro2s than HSLs w/ all other things being equal.
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