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Old Apr 19, 2011 | 04:16 PM
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hey everyone i have a delso.. deltegra i know im going to get raged on for that lol... but any way i have a sir b16a im building for turbo an need to know two things. I have got valves spring bearing hbeams arpbolts jsp pistons everything built to hold alot of hp+tq because i beleave in over building so you have no weak ends

soooo i need to know what is the best cam to put in my b16a,Plus what can a stock crank handle or shold i change it an what crank should i go with? Like i said i am trying to over build for safty,but im looking to get 400whp or more
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Old Apr 19, 2011 | 07:37 PM
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As for as cams i couldnt help you, but the stock honda cams seem to be very adequate for boosting pretty high numbers.

As for as the crank, you should and WILL be fine. Honda cranks are bullet proof. But if you wanna make double sure, get a shop to balance it and inspect it, follow proper bearing clearances and dont worry about it.
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Old Apr 19, 2011 | 07:53 PM
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PMed about my custom cams.
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Old Apr 20, 2011 | 04:15 AM
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See I would like to go away from stock cams for the fact they all have wear unless u buy new ones from acura of Honda an that's like 450+ per cam... that's why im trying to find the best aftermarket cam plus I would tthink a aftermarket would be stronger too on the lobs for less wear...maybe?
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Old Apr 20, 2011 | 04:18 AM
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ctr cams ftw there cheap an perfect for a buget build an make great power
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Old Apr 20, 2011 | 04:19 AM
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Ok so the crank is strong but does anyone know how strong it is cause like how much hp+tq can it take? Beacause almost everytime I hear of someone building a high hp+tq boosted b16&18 they change that's why im trying to just make sure... but I don't want to east money on a part that I have an will handle the same or dam ner the same hp+tq
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Old Apr 20, 2011 | 04:26 AM
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I know ctr cams r good buy im trying to stay away from used parts as u can see
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Old Apr 20, 2011 | 04:38 AM
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Plus price don't really matter
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Old Apr 20, 2011 | 07:13 AM
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A B16a shooting for 400 is going to be HURT by any cam bigger than an ITR/CTR cam, they are actually on the large side for that motor and power goals. GSR cams would be ideal with a turbo up to a "57 trim" and ITR cams beyond that. A bigger cam on a forced induction build should ideally be chosen first on displacement then turbo size is considered, so starting off you have a B16..... What turbo?

I'm not sure where you are finding your worn out cams and finding everyone upgrading cranks, looks to me as if you may be new to Honda performance builds and need to put your money back in your pocket and spend a few months reading. Unfortunately I know that's not what your going to do, your going to spend way more money than is necessary and be unsatisfied with the results of your poor choices.

FYI: Your punctuation/grammar/spelling are hideous, no this isn't English class but at least make an attempt to sound remotely educated. Please....
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Old Apr 20, 2011 | 07:15 AM
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You can buy NEW ITR cams many places for under your $900 range, so if price is not an issue.....
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Old Apr 20, 2011 | 05:53 PM
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im not looking for a big cam so to say, im looking for a turbo cam set thats the best, plus i siad price dont really matter but if i can get two cams for 500+ or - alittle why would i do that? the turbo for now is a 57trim but planing for bigger. An i read the honda tunning mag. an mostly everyone putting down big power like 400+ most of them have aftermarket cranks thats why im not to sure if it is worth it or not... even if its over kill would it be good so im not close to the hp rating on the crank thats why i would like to know if anyone out there knows the rating on the crank.
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Old Apr 20, 2011 | 06:07 PM
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also so what ur saying is my cams in my b16a that have maybe so to say 120,000 miles on them r better to use for a turbo app. then a set of brand new turbo cams them selfs??? im just not sure how you find that so if you dont mind telling me please do im always in the mood to learn something new.
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im not looking for a big cam so to say, im looking for a turbo cam set thats the best, plus i siad price dont really matter but if i can get two cams for 500+ or - alittle why would i do that? the turbo for now is a 57trim but planing for bigger. An i read the honda tunning mag. an mostly everyone putting down big power like 400+ most of them have aftermarket cranks thats why im not to sure if it is worth it or not... even if its over kill would it be good so im not close to the hp rating on the crank thats why i would like to know if anyone out there knows the rating on the crank.
They just used an aftermarket crank because it was within their grasp. Its best to stay OEM crank. A simple re-polish will work.
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Old Apr 20, 2011 | 06:35 PM
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just buy the New itr cams for $800+ they are good and they are new since price isnt an issue. end thread thats it... no need for bigger cams stock Itr ctr's will do. ppl have done oem cams and made over 400.. as for crank at 400whp you dont have to worry about the crank snapping in half as you have a long way to go..
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Old Apr 20, 2011 | 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by deltegra11
hey everyone i have a delso.. deltegra i know im going to get raged on for that lol... but any way i have a sir b16a im building for turbo an need to know two things. I have got valves spring bearing hbeams arpbolts jsp pistons everything built to hold alot of hp+tq because i beleave in over building so you have no weak ends

soooo i need to know what is the best cam to put in my b16a,Plus what can a stock crank handle or shold i change it an what crank should i go with? Like i said i am trying to over build for safty,but im looking to get 400whp or more
Don't be ashamed of the car selection, I think a DelSol could be fun. Also, keep things simple. I can understand overbuilding to make sure everything is strong but don't spend money one unnecessary parts. A set of GSR cams would be a great option. They will take you upwards 450-500WHP. If you want to pick up a few foot pounds of torque and can justify the money then a set of Blox or Skunk Tuner cams would be nice.
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Old Apr 21, 2011 | 11:36 AM
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ok than that works im just trying to make sure that im not going to regret not going with new cams an a new crank later down the road.. cause of failure due to cams or the crank.

so how about the cams that come stock in an obd1 b16a are those cams any good for turbo cause thats what i have now
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Old Apr 21, 2011 | 11:41 AM
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I just took out my 2000 JDM ITR cams last weekend. Shoot me a PM if you are interested in them for $300. The numbers in my sig are old but I did that using these cams.
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Old Apr 21, 2011 | 04:45 PM
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so used cams for 300$ or brand spanking new ones for 450$-550$... see thats the point im trying to make if i can get used for 300$ and for about 200$ more or evn little less i can get new ones then why would i buy used for that price? thats why im trying to find out what is the best AFTERMARKET cam to get im not looking for a big cam im looking for a cam set that is best for turbo that is AFTERMARKET!
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Old Apr 21, 2011 | 04:49 PM
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Stay stock or GSR. They will support more power then you'll ever need on the street.

Stock cranks are forged from the factory and can also support more power then you'll ever need.
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so used cams for 300$ or brand spanking new ones for 450$-550$... see thats the point im trying to make if i can get used for 300$ and for about 200$ more or evn little less i can get new ones then why would i buy used for that price? thats why im trying to find out what is the best AFTERMARKET cam to get im not looking for a big cam im looking for a cam set that is best for turbo that is AFTERMARKET!
I can follow your logic. I wouldn't pay $300 for a used set of OEM cams either. Just look around, I paid $100 for a set of GSR cams.
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Old Apr 21, 2011 | 09:08 PM
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Three outlaw sfwd cars here, all making 900-1000hp on oem honda cranks.

We made just over 800 on stock gsr cams too...

For the power you are looking to make, stock cams are all you need.
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Old Apr 21, 2011 | 10:03 PM
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Im not following his logic. He said price doesnt matter, but; yet he is stuck on the word aftermarket. Just because its a performance part doesnt mean it will always do more help than harm. Ive seen some set-ups use too big off a cam and lose over 30hp vs a stock cam. $300 aint no money for a used set of itrs ctrs especially when you will gain a little more. I hope you find a cam that will suite your set-up i made 3780whp 252tq at 17lbs with a HHHuge exhaust leak with itr cams that exhaust leak probably yield 5 or 10hp maybe more ill see when i retune.. My set up is a stock gsr head itr cams 9.0:1 wisecos eagle rods 81.5mm bore redlining at 8100 and a precision 6262 hope this helps you..
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Old Apr 21, 2011 | 10:04 PM
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Typo lol 380whp lol is what i made haha
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Old Apr 22, 2011 | 05:55 AM
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I won't lie my post was a shameless plug. I'm sure I'll get 250-300 for these. I swapped those jdm itr cams for skunk2 tuner1s last weekend on a 500hp setup. Gained 20whp, nothing major. Skunk2 pro1s are to big unless your car lives on race gas at 600hp+
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Old Apr 22, 2011 | 07:06 AM
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I'm surprised you saw such a gain from what is essentially the same cam profile, maybe the ramp angles on the tuner 1's are more aggressive than that of the itr.
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