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Old Apr 19, 2011 | 11:09 AM
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i bought the ASR 24MM Swaybar & Reinforcement Kit for my 99 CIVIC SI and wondering what the pieced circled in red was for.. when i went to test fit it on my car it didn't serve any purpose.. do i even need these to pieces??

also i was wondering what is the best way to put on the pair of Spherical end links to the lower control arm?..
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Old Apr 19, 2011 | 11:17 AM
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The peices in red are the 'Backing Plates' which the SI already has. You will not use them.
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Old Apr 19, 2011 | 11:20 AM
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Yep backing plates dude!
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Old Apr 19, 2011 | 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by 98civdx
The peices in red are the 'Backing Plates' which the SI already has. You will not use them.
Thanks for the quick reply.. Now for the 2 pieces cirlcled in green.. I no how it fits but how should I go about how much tension from sway bar to lower control arm to set it at..

I'm just trying to gather as much info before I start the installation process
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Old Apr 19, 2011 | 12:37 PM
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You want the endlinks to be good and snug. There's not really a defined torque spec for anything beyond OEM endlinks. Just make sure there is no play in either endlink.
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Old Apr 19, 2011 | 01:50 PM
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You want the endlinks to be good and snug. There's not really a defined torque spec for anything beyond OEM endlinks. Just make sure there is no play in either endlink.
+1...I'd also teflon tape the sway bar where the d-brackets are and lube those end links real good (thats what she said?) I was under the impression that wouldn't be needed on my DC2 but the noises were horrible after about 5k miles. After putting the teflon and lubing the endlinks it was all good!
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Old Apr 19, 2011 | 02:45 PM
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+1...I'd also teflon tape the sway bar where the d-brackets are and lube those end links real good (thats what she said?) I was under the impression that wouldn't be needed on my DC2 but the noises were horrible after about 5k miles. After putting the teflon and lubing the endlinks it was all good!
Don't lube the spherical endlink bearings. The lube will just provide something for dirt to stick to, which will wear the bearing quicker as the dirt works into it.

Teflon tape on the ARB if you're using polyurethane bushings is a good idea though.

Spherical bearings don't really belong on a street car. At least use teflon lines spherical bearings to get them to not squeak, but still be prepared to need to replace them at regular intervals. If this isn't acceptable, then rubber bushings are best (and is why OEMs use them).

My non-teflon lines spherical endlinks have around 24k miles on them and have already worn enough to make noise. They're due for replacement, just like the 2 year old braided stainless brake lines on the car (which also need regular replacement unlike OEM rubber).
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Old Apr 21, 2011 | 05:52 AM
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[bit off topic]

Originally Posted by TunerN00b
2 year old braided stainless brake lines on the car (which also need regular replacement unlike OEM rubber).
Why is this and how does one notice the wear (owning Goodridge lines)?
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Old Apr 21, 2011 | 10:42 AM
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Why is this and how does one notice the wear (owning Goodridge lines)?
You'll never notice the wear, until it's too late.

Braided steel lines are plastic line with woven steel over them. If any dirt gets into / under the weave, it will slowly wear the plastic inner line. Braided steel lines should be changed at regular intervals, before any noticeable "wear" occurs.

The change interval should be based on driving conditions, and a track car should probably consider swapping them after any offtrack occurrence. A street car really shouldn't be using non-rubber/silicone wrapped braided steel lines (not sure which brands come this way, my Goodridge aren't wrapped), but we do anyway, and have the choice of either playing it safe and replacing every couple of years or just waiting for a leak and hoping we don't crash when it does.

These are silicone covered braided steel, and shouldn't have issues with dirt in the weave (quick Google search result, not for a Honda):
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