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Old Apr 7, 2011 | 09:36 PM
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Default CAR WILL NOT START 1020EMS/T1/Twinfire/Coils

I've been trying to figure this out on my own but it seems impossible so lets see what Honda-Tech can suggest for me.

Aem Ems1020 box
T1 Cam Trigger
Aem Twinfire Box
Aem Coils

The car will not turn over at all, It will crank and keep on cranking but that is all it does and as far as I CAN GET. The car has fuel, spark and all the parameters are reading what they should be reading. YES EVERYTHING IS WIRED THE WRITE WAY AND IT SET UP AS WASTED SPARK ALSO I DID SEND THE BOX IN TO GET THE RESISTORS NEEDED TO RUN THE T1.

P.S I ALSO READ SPOOLIN18 THREAD ON HERE INWHICH WE SEEMED TO HAVE THE SAME ISSUE EXCEPT I HAVE A 1020 BOX AND T1 TRIGGER.
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Old Apr 8, 2011 | 06:54 AM
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In addition to the wiring instructions posted above, make sure your Ignition Tooth options are configured in the correct firing order based on the wiring orientation and all of your Advanced Pickup options are properly set up for the T1 trigger.
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Old Apr 8, 2011 | 08:29 AM
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Yes guys it's wired the right way as per those instructions posted above I also followed tony1 instructions which are on his website, http://t1racedevelopment.com/images/...ructions_1.pdf
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Old Apr 8, 2011 | 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by rapidoo15
Yes guys it's wired the right way as per those instructions posted above I also followed tony1 instructions which are on his website, http://t1racedevelopment.com/images/...ructions_1.pdf
It looks like the T1 instructions you posted show the Ignition and Fuel tooth options set up for consecutive cylinder order wiring – Coil Output 1 to Cyl 1, Coil Output 2 to Cyl 2, etc. The AEM instructions above have the wiring laid out by firing order. Either way will work perfectly fine depending on how you prefer to wire the car and arrange the tooth options.

Try to rearrange your ignition and fuel teeth options so they fire in the correct sequence based on the AEM wiring diagram shown.
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Old Apr 8, 2011 | 08:07 PM
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WILL IT HELP IF I UPLOAD MY MAP ON HERE
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Old Apr 8, 2011 | 08:08 PM
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and stat synced stays off
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Old Apr 9, 2011 | 05:31 PM
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what rpm are you seeing on the aem wwhile cranking ?
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Old Apr 9, 2011 | 05:45 PM
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If stat sync'd stays off then there should not be fuel and spark. So is there really fuel and spark?
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Old Apr 10, 2011 | 03:35 PM
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dturbo The Rpm stays at Zero

Tony1 Your 100% correct now im getting no spark but Im getting fuel, ive checked the outputs on the ecu and there all good its all wired up correct my issue now is that I have power to the cdi plugs while the key is on but once i start cranking i loose all power.
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Old Apr 10, 2011 | 04:15 PM
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What are you using as a power source? Some switched sources turn off as you crank the engine.
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Old Apr 10, 2011 | 04:44 PM
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it probally backfires too when you key off?? you need to be into a constant 12v key on source go into the ignition switch
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Old Apr 10, 2011 | 04:59 PM
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Im using the cig lighter as the switched 12v as for the power to the twin fire i use the battery and a inline fuse on the positive side as the manual suggested, also silly question i sent the box in to get modded for T1 trigger do i have to do the same for cop?
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Old Apr 10, 2011 | 05:19 PM
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Old Apr 10, 2011 | 05:56 PM
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I just went out and tested the lighter on my hatch, and it turns off as you crank the engine.
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Old Apr 10, 2011 | 06:08 PM
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as soon as you guys suggested that i changed it and put it on a switched constant 12v and still nothing now i do get power while cranking but no spark, there is a pic of my board also just to make sure everything is right
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Old Apr 10, 2011 | 06:18 PM
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do you have rpm now ?
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Old Apr 10, 2011 | 06:25 PM
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^^^^ and if you do. Check the plugs and make sure they are not fouled out.
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Old Apr 10, 2011 | 06:33 PM
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rpm still doesnt move
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Old Apr 10, 2011 | 06:38 PM
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you sure you have the t1 trigger wired properly ?
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Old Apr 10, 2011 | 07:03 PM
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Yes i checked im getting power to the trigger i checked with a meter but is there another way i can check to make sure it is working properly.
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Old Apr 10, 2011 | 07:06 PM
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if you have no rpm... you have no signal.

does the cam sensor have power and ground ?

are the signal wires in the right places @ the ecu ?

what air gap do you have the sensor set at ?
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Old Apr 10, 2011 | 07:06 PM
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im talking about rpm in the aem software, not on your tach
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Old Apr 10, 2011 | 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by dturbocivic
if you have no rpm... you have no signal.

does the cam sensor have power and ground ?

are the signal wires in the right places @ the ecu ?

what air gap do you have the sensor set at ?
Yes i have no rpm, none what so ever

yes it has power and ground

yes the wires are in the right places

the gap is .040"
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Old Apr 10, 2011 | 07:45 PM
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also the by pass plug that the twin fire comes with do i have to connect that?
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Old Apr 10, 2011 | 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by rapidoo15
also the by pass plug that the twin fire comes with do i have to connect that?
Yeah put the bypass plug correct
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