ive got a 91 ef hatch & i found a b18b1 to drop in but it has an auto tranny.

should i just intall the auto untill i find a better tranny or should i buy the b2d kit??

why is the b16 better than the b18 tranny?

which one is best?

 

Buy a B-series manual cable tranny. B16 tranny is geared shorter for quicker acceleration. Personally i'd go with a '92 - '93 YS1 Integra cable transmission as they're stronger than the '90 - '91 units. Arguably the best cable transmission you're going to find is the '92 - '93 YS1 GS-R transmission (these are rare though, most YS1s are LS transmissions)

 

i thought they did away with the cable trans in 91?

so the 92 & 93 integra has a cable shift also?

 

Yes 92 and 93 use a cable for clutch activation like the 90-91. Highly recommend getting 92-93 GSR or JDM spec if you can find one! The parts are also interchangeable with some of the 94-01 Integra hydro transmissions..so makes them easier to uprade and get replacement parts. 90-91 do not interchange like the 92-93 transmissions

 

'90 - '91 Diff pins also aren't as strong as the '92+ version which makes the YS1 even more worthwhile.

 

LS with B16 head

 

why a b16 head?
ive heard of this ys1 what about the s80?

 

S80 is a hydro transmission.

 

The S80 is a hydraulic trans versus the cable type. You will need to get a cable to hydro conversion kit to use this transmission and a clutch for 92-01 Integra

 

so in what car do i find this ys1 transmission & can i get a few more responses to see if this is truely the next best thing to a type r tranny?

 

'92 - '93 Integra. The GS-R is preferential due to it's gearing though, unfortunately '92 - '93 GS-Rs were quite rare. You can drop S80/S4C hydro guts in any YS1 case though to create transmissions not otherwise available using only OEM parts (for example you can swap the guts from an ITR transmission into a YS1 case to get an ITR cable tranny, something that doesn't otherwise exist)

 

so in theory YS1 is the universal case for bseries hydro or cable setups? & they came in a 92-93 integra only. & the GSR had different gearing inside the same case?

why would i drop the s80 into the ys1? is that the "type r" (<--dont flame) cable trans that never existed?

i heard a b16 cable trans will not work on my b18b1. I'm thinking i want to stay cable but ive been told hydro is all around more durable. i just like the feel of the cable, better for precise clutch pressure.

ive got a 92 jdm integra auto trans still connected to the b18b2 its a bummer cuz i was told i cant fit it into my 91 ef manual hatch.

 

cable/hydro shift** not trying to sound like a complete fool.

more info would be a great help. ide use the auto trans if i could since its still attached but i was told i cannot. i want a manual but i only want to build it once. so a lil more info about the internal swappability of the ys1 & other trannys please.

a lil more info about my decision for cable or hydro...

 

'92 - '93 Integra only, and yes the GS-R had different gearing in the same case. They were all cable, but the internal parts are interchangeable with the new hydro transmissions.

S80 can be anything from LS to type R, but yes you can drop GS-R or ITR hydro guts into that YS1 cable case, this way you don't need a crappy cable to hydro conversion kit (pricey enough and they never seem to work right)


B16 cable tranny will work, but you'll need a '90 - '91 Integra clutch, B16 cable trannys aren't very strong though. It makes sense to stay cable in a cable chassis.


Yeah, it doesn't fit, it wont clear the passenger's side frame rail.

 

so if i font a 92 or 93 integra ys1 tranny that is cable or hydro?

i want cable for my 91 hatch, im not much into the hydro personally

 

this is the write up i found years ago when i built my trans , it should answer any questions about your trans swap

http://www.outlawatvclub.com/users/s...ny_how_to.html


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Cable.

 

thank you for the info.

you cant reuse shift (not solinoids) but w/e the cable clutch things are called.

syncros??

i cannot reuse a syncro can i? to swap the 5th gear?

 

also... been doing a lot of reading & people are really talkin **** about the LS tranny.

wouldnt this be the ys1 tranny? im not exactly trying to buy a dud or tear one apart & buy syncros. tranny work is expencive & im not spending 1000 bucks on a effing tranny.

i want cable. because cable rocks. lol
but i also plan to put 8 to 1 pistons and boost the hell out of it.

soooo. ive been reading ls tranny for boost is a waste of time.
i know how to drive a car but transmissions are my weak point.

a lil more info would be great.

 

I can't remember right off if the 5th gear synchro is the same between LS and GS-R/ITR/B16. Pretty sure it is for 5th though.

All '92 - '93 Integra trannys are YS1s, the GS-Rs are geared differently than the rest. Either way the YS1 transmission is as good as it gets for a stock cable tranny.


Cable sucks, mostly due to release issues from stretched clutch cables (this is especially prevalent if you're running a heavy aftermarket clutch), but it makes sense to stick with it in a cable chassis most of the time.

 

& also would there be any benefit other than highway cruzing for the swapping of the 5th gear? ive been told NOT to swap 5th gear & instead swap the final drive?? anyone have info on this??

 

Don't swap the final drive, at that point you might as well just run an LS tranny, because if you swap the final drive you'll have no choice but to run an LS 1st and 2nd gear as well since they're cast into the mainshaft. LS 5th will help marginally with mileage on the highway, and it will keep the noise level down a bit.

 

thanks for the help.

might drop the ls in unless i can find a better tranny for cheap.

im looking to put low compression pistons & run boost. i know everyones talks alot of **** but with this is mind will a stock LS tranny even work?

 

It'll work fine, but a good helical LSD (Mfactory or Quaife) will help out a lot in terms of traction and not blowing up differentials.

 

its pretty hard to blow a manual tranny. we are talkin 300 hp at absolute best. how fast is 3rd gear gonna be at about 5500 rpms?