I do not drive my car hard at all and do not want to spend $50 on oil alone.

This is the first oil change since I bought the car and I want to get into a habit of using *decent* oil.

Factors might include that I live in MI. and experience 4 seasons, not sure how much that factors in. Not a Type-S.

Should I just got with the rated 5w20 all year round? If so whats a decently priced brand for my easy driving? I also do not put a lot of miles on the vehicle and right now its only got 71k on the engine.


Thanks.

 

lol dont use 5w20, use 5w30
and use synthetic and also try using search button this has been covered so many times

 

I use Amsoil OE and get it from a local distributor for about $4 a quart.

Also, Amsoil claims service life for there regular $10 per quart oil to be 1 year/25,000 miles under normal conditions.

 

my oil cap says 5w20, why use 5w30?


ill see if I can find Amsoil OE locally, that price sounds fine by me

 

Because Honda stopped using it themselves! They started noticing grinding threw the cams and decided to send a letter to all owners to not use 5w20 in all Kseries engines and to use 5w30 instead...

Search it you will find it...

 

I searched and see you mention it in another thread - then someone asking for proof and no reply.

I have searched the internets also and see mixed reviews, with most saying to use the rated 5w20 although they are a couple years old.


Do you have an official link showing this to be true?

 

Yes its a proven fact that 5w20 does cause cam lobe galling on k20a3. Mostly all dealership stopped using the 5w20 because it was costing them to much and then Honda put a stop to it by specifying that all Kseries use 5w30.

Read this link... there is good info in there plus a pic of what happens when using 5w20...

http://www.ephatch.com/forum/showthr...highlight=5w20

At the end of the day its your choice... I honestly couldn't care what you choose to do but like I always say I did tell you so!

 

nah man I appreciate the info and links, thanks.

 

No problem bud... here to help!

 

This is untrue. It is an internet rumor that started right around the time that the pictures of the galled cams came out. Honda never officially recognized the galling issue and NO ONE has EVER proved that the oil has caused the issue. It has been speculated in the automotive industry that the issue was cam matrerial. But again there was no proof. At any rate, Honda continues to reccomend 5-W20 where applicable. In fact Honda is now the ONLY manufacture to use 0-W20 oil in many of their vehicles.

 

lol hey dcfiver you always against davesi's post LOL
but its cool whether its fake or not its still the drivers choice and responsibility on whatever they use
like what everbody say use honda MTF tranny oil but i prefer royal purple which gave me a big smile and never fails me til now

 

some decent info in this thread: http://www.jk-forum.com/archive/index.php/t-11756.html

regarding clearances and whatnot in relation to using a thinner oil.

 

Meh, Daves cool. Nobody agrees on everythig. Sometimes it is a difference of opinion, some times it is a difference of fact At least he's not like the mod over in the Civic forum. He deletes my posts if I disagree with the false infomation he provides. When I kept trying to post I was docked points. Thats what I get for being in the Civic forum...

 

We have to agree to disagree! That is how a great database is formed!

I have no reason to delete your post unless it was a personal attack... which I know isn't the case bud!

 

thats honda-tech loved

 

Ive used 5w-30 Castrol Syntec in my A3 for about 40k now (since I bought the car) and the engine runs great. No oil consumption, cam galling, or material in the oil sump (I have magnetic drain plugs).

 

 

After lots of searching and reading I am well convinced that people with seeming intelligence in the inner working of their engines are using 5w30 so I will make the move towards using it myself.

Nobody says anything against it, and definitely have pro arguments towards it - and whether or not the claims are true people seem to believe they are and some even claim proof by working in garages and noticing that while even people using 5w30 have the galling issue, far more using 5w20 seem to have it.


I appreciate you guys entertaining the thread and just hope the first 70k that were put on my car havent done any significant damage.

 

bro i have 121xxx miles on my car and im using 5w30 ever since, and my engine works really fine

 

Eneos seems so far to be a pretty good synthetic oil that ive been selling and using, havent tried motul or royal purple yet.

 

ended up grabbing some mobile 1 full synthetic for $24.50 a gallon at walmart. Maybe on my next change I will look into some of the more expensive synthetics.

Thanks for all the info

 

$24.50 a gallon??
or $24.50 for 5 gallons?
just making corrections lolz
well thats good usually it cost $28 plus tax in autozone

 

lol, my fault. $24.50 for a 5 quart jug. No sale or anything, just regular priced.

 

I'm using Eneos 5W20 full syn. I get it from my work for like 5 bucks a quart so it is cheaper than all the other brands and seems to burn off less than Mobil One did.

Is there any chance the cam issues are related to most of the oil companies removing the zinc additives from the engine oil? I know this is a hot topic with all the older V8 stuff. They have issues with the zinc and have to run special additives for their flat tappet engines. I am sure Honda is WAY ahead of that stuff but it was just a thought.

 

That consideration was also up for debate. But for the most part motor oil usage is the same across the board, yet only Hondas have suffered from the cam galling. I'd still say it was the cam material.