Hey everyone I was wondering as to what all i need and where to get the software in order to retune my 98 obd1 ls/vtec turbo integra for crome(It currently has a crome chipped p28 ecu and was tuned for 5psi but setup has changed altogether) , any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks

 

You would be better off spending the money and purchasing software that has a bit more support.

Neptune or eCtune can be purchased with tuning packages ready to go out of the box. Also, If you have never tuned before I would suggest starting out on a build that is a bit closer to stock. That way you will be able to get used to what is required for fuel adjustments and whatnot without jeopardizing your new build. Not the best to street tune ignition timing ether. that is best doen on a dyno.

Xenocron.com has a few package deals.

I do not suggest Crome Free or Free log to tune any vehicle, even if it's only for a demolition derby car.

If you want to go cheap cheap with no support or upgrades you can go Crome Pro and buy;
• Moates Ostrich (or equivalent emulator)
• Moates Hulog (or equivalent dataloging cable)
• Innovate LC-1 Wideband sensor w/gauge (or equivalent wideband air fuel ratio (AFR) sensor and gauge)

Honestly, I would suggest taking it to a dyno and getting it tuned properly. Cheaper in the long run! However, if you really want to start tuning yourself and your not just doing this to save money. Spend the money and get some good equipment.

 

Couldn't agree more! Hondata, Neptune, Ectune RTP style systems are the way to go.
One single usb able, software that works properly & customer support!

 

well i was going to have a buddy tune my car in order for me to save some money

 

Well then you should probably find out what software your buddy uses most often to tune. What ever he is most comfortable with would be your best bet. Do you know if he has any of the tuning hardware, ie wideband O2, datalogging cable or ROM emulator?

 

Yeah I don't think its going to workout having my buddy help me out

 

Honestly for the price of the hardware you need to properly tune yourself. You could probably get a couple hours tuning on a dyno. I guess that all depends on how much they charge and how close they would be to you.

 

talk to a guy that would tune my car for $400 so idk

 

$400! That must be for a full day dyno rental and a few street runs. Or at least 4hrs of tuning. I wouldn't figure that tuning your setup would take 4 hrs for someone who knows what they are doing????? Did they tell you approximately how long it would take?

We can rent a dyno around here for 12 hrs including setup and wideband for $500.

 

Yeah he tuned my car before and never had any problems. and last time I got it tuned it took them like 30mins i think

 

$400 for 30 minutes! Who is this very well paid tuner?

 

Wow that is super over priced. I agree with ghostaccord better be a full day of tuning at that price dude.

 

i get $165 an hour for dyno tuning. that $400 doesnt sound so bad compared to some of the invoices ive printed up

 

Yeah, here in CA $400 for a complete tune is about right. $150-$200 per hour on the dyno, setup time, quick street tune to make sure its all running well....

 

Thankz lol, you just made me feel alot better because that is the same as I was quoted for around these parts

 

The OP said it only took them 30 minutes to tune. Is that really worth $400? I guess if you can get away with charging kids $200/hr for a 2WD dyno session you deserve the cash in hand.

 

Up here in wisconsin there aint very many options available, and the guy that told me he could get me a tune for 300 sounded pretty good but it ended up being 350 and they said they would retune it for 150 and now there saying 400

 

That sort of situation really sucks. There aren't many options around my area ether. But at least the guy that runs the dyno is fair and doesn't gouge just because he can.

 

Yeah it sucks! the only guy that I really trusted in madison no longer works in a shop he moved on thought cars were a waste, but he knew everything about them

 

That seems to be a growing trend these days. Unfortunately more often the guys who know very little are reaping the rewards for riding the coat tails of those who did all of the hard work, and have moved on.

 

Just to clarify...

Yes, charging $400 for a 30 minute tuning session is obsurd.. But who can actually do a GOOD tune in 30 minutes? Hell, it takes almost that long to strap down the car, hook up the wideband, check timing, compression, etc. before you even start doing any actual tuning. Let alone programming and installing the chip, test driving, etc..

I think realistically a 2 hour session is the minimum for getting a decent tune... my $.02

 

I completely agree! and when i said 30mins i was meaning just chip,tune, and test.