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Old Mar 11, 2011 | 10:30 PM
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Hey I am running a turbo gsr but running it with stock suspention. i dont feel like lowering the car cuz i've went through different setups and its still rough/stiff. I just want to run ALL stock. This will be a street car(and once track to see what I run). Will this hurt anything? Do i must have some sorta suspension when running turbo car?
Old Mar 11, 2011 | 10:34 PM
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<LOL^

have fun with your boat

you have created what those of us who track cars call a "white knuckle ride"

in short it's an overpowered car when looked at with the available traction, body control and braking
Old Mar 11, 2011 | 10:43 PM
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<LOL^

have fun with your boat

you have created what those of us who track cars call a "white knuckle ride"

in short it's an overpowered car when looked at with the available traction, body control and braking
well I dont care what i'll be called. like I said, this is not a track car but a street car.
My question is will anything brake or damage regaurding suspension?
Old Mar 11, 2011 | 11:33 PM
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mmm it's a little harder on motor mounts since you'll be doing the rocking boat when you drive hard.

basically you'll just have an overpowered car that won't handle or stop for ****
Old Mar 12, 2011 | 08:34 AM
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It's totally fine to drive around with stock suspension. A little less than 100 extra horsepower isn't going to break a coil spring because it rocks the car back so hard or anything.
Old Mar 13, 2011 | 01:30 PM
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It's totally fine to drive around with stock suspension. A little less than 100 extra horsepower isn't going to break a coil spring because it rocks the car back so hard or anything.
thanks love to hear this!!
Old Mar 14, 2011 | 10:54 AM
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I have the same thing... well almost ( 2000 SI ) and it sucks. It is like drivin a boat, no traction till 3rd gear even on dry hot days. ( Im gettin the eibach pro sport kit next week ). You could get coilovers and lower it just an inch or inch and a half with ur OEM suspension and it wouldnt ride to rough at all. ( did it before ) Just dont slam it
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Originally Posted by Bizzle5OH3
I have the same thing... well almost ( 2000 SI ) and it sucks. It is like drivin a boat, no traction till 3rd gear even on dry hot days. ( Im gettin the eibach pro sport kit next week ). You could get coilovers and lower it just an inch or inch and a half with ur OEM suspension and it wouldnt ride to rough at all. ( did it before ) Just dont slam it
what are the specs of this kit? i only ask because powerful cars usually wind up being more predictable with stiffer rates. 500/450 or 450/400 would be good choices with koni/gc for example
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Originally Posted by Bizzle5OH3
Just dont slam it
NEVER EWWW. yea maybe some eibach sportlines on stock shocks. Or I have been thinking to toss in the extended top hat to put less stress on stock shock. What you think about that.
Old Mar 15, 2011 | 11:07 PM
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extended top hats are most beneficial in slammed cars. stiffer springs and tighter damped shocks are the formula for a high hp car
Old Mar 16, 2011 | 02:41 AM
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since ur car is soo over powered, u may want to upgrade your brakes at least.. ur gona want to be able to stop when your going super fast.
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since ur car is soo over powered, u may want to upgrade your brakes at least.. ur gona want to be able to stop when your going super fast.
as much as this made me LOL you're actually correct. when you build a car, if you actually want it to perform the ENTIRE car has to be upgraded. the suspension, brakes, clutch etc.

at a minimum hawk hp+ or axxis ultimates would be a big step in the right direction. the 23T front brake upgrade is what should really be done.
Old Mar 16, 2011 | 02:19 PM
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Just playing a little devil's advocate here....

Unless he is planning on doing multiple high speed stops (aka the track or "spirited" canyon driving) the OEM brakes should hold up fine until you get too much heat in them. Big brakes aren't going to improve your stopping power much but they will handle heat without the pedal going to the floor.

That being said I still think its foolish to invest that much money into the power aspect of the car without addressing anything else.
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Originally Posted by Loubaru
Just playing a little devil's advocate here....

Unless he is planning on doing multiple high speed stops (aka the track or "spirited" canyon driving) the OEM brakes should hold up fine until you get too much heat in them. Big brakes aren't going to improve your stopping power much but they will handle heat without the pedal going to the floor.

That being said I still think its foolish to invest that much money into the power aspect of the car without addressing anything else.
yea I am not planning to go any faster than 130 ever. No point. Honda not made for high speeds.

the second statement.....I agree with that. I'll get some lowering springs with extended top hats.
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Are you slamming this car? Whats the need for the extended top hats???
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Originally Posted by Loubaru
Just playing a little devil's advocate here....

Unless he is planning on doing multiple high speed stops (aka the track or "spirited" canyon driving) the OEM brakes should hold up fine until you get too much heat in them. Big brakes aren't going to improve your stopping power much but they will handle heat without the pedal going to the floor.

That being said I still think its foolish to invest that much money into the power aspect of the car without addressing anything else.
just in a first stop the ultimates will stop faster than oem pads, same with fade resistance. higher friction co efficient. if the tires can take it the more aggressive pads are a big step up

then again if your tires are rocks the first stop will be limited by traction not the pads
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Are you slamming this car? Whats the need for the extended top hats???
no not slamming just under 2 inch drop. Extended hats are there to release some stress off the stock shock.
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Default Re: running turbo gsr with stock suspension...???

Originally Posted by danielblushtein
no not slamming just under 2 inch drop. Extended hats are there to release some stress off the stock shock.
I hope you are joking about 2 inch drop with extended top hats and stock shoks with a "under 2' drop".

This thread is a joke.
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Originally Posted by danielblushtein
no not slamming just under 2 inch drop. Extended hats are there to release some stress off the stock shock.


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Originally Posted by igorka_91
I hope you are joking about 2 inch drop with extended top hats and stock shoks with a "under 2' drop".
Originally Posted by ek forever guy



why the he!! state this ^^^ and not explain what the real problem is? I know a couple people that lowered their car with lowering springs and had stock shock and the shocks went out after like 7-8k miles. Now if I have the extended top hat, it wont squeeze my shock as much therefore I will get some stress off the stock shock allowing it to last longer.
Thats my theory. Now If you have something against it.....say it but dont just post , , Joking. < dont tell me much.
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Have your tried lowering springs? They will be softer then coilovers. If you want coilovers look into H&R's that is what I am getting for my EG.
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Oh, and your stock suspension should be fine....
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Have your tried lowering springs? They will be softer then coilovers. If you want coilovers look into H&R's that is what I am getting for my EG.
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Oh, and your stock suspension should be fine....

yea that will most likely be my thing after i'm tired of having "fun with my boat". lol
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Originally Posted by Tek869
Have your tried lowering springs? They will be softer then coilovers. If you want coilovers look into H&R's that is what I am getting for my EG.
Why are springs just naturally soft?

This is a tragically perpetuated myth.

H&R race, neuspeed race, and Skunk2 just to name a few are all springs that have 400+lb spring rates.



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