Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000) EG/EH/EJ/EK/EM1 Discussion

D16Y7: How to do a good mild n/a bulit on it?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Mar 10, 2011 | 04:37 PM
  #1  
97.dx.coupe's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 9
Likes: 0
From: Austin,MN
Default D16Y7: How to do a good mild n/a bulit on it?

Hey there. I'm from minnesota. I own a 97 civic coupe dx. With a D16Y7 any ideas on how to do a good mild n/a bulit on it?
Reply
Old Mar 10, 2011 | 04:43 PM
  #2  
BryanM.'s Avatar
Resident Gearhead
15 Year Member
Liked
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 5,643
Likes: 16
Default Re: I'm new.

Welcome!

Originally Posted by 97.dx.coupe
Hey there. I'm from minnesota. I own a 97 civic coupe dx. With a D16Y7 any ideas on how to do a good mild n/a bulit on it?
Don't bother, not worth the trouble or money. Seriously.

Swap or turbo.

I really like the Y7 the way it is. Yes it is slow, but it is very fuel efficient. I drive a lot on the highway and I frequently get 40-45 mpg during the warmer months.


Reply
Old Mar 10, 2011 | 04:52 PM
  #3  
Former User's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 45,214
Likes: 59
Default Re: D16Y7: How to do a good mild n/a bulit on it?

Thread titles MUST be subject specific so that members browsing topics can easily understand the tech problem without reading the post:

https://honda-tech.com/forums/showpo...12&postcount=1

Please familiarize yourself with the stickies at the top.



Because you are a new member, I edited the title for you this time.
Reply
Old Mar 10, 2011 | 04:58 PM
  #4  
94EG8's Avatar
Seagull Management
 
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 15,150
Likes: 26
From: Miramichi, NB, Canada
Default Re: D16Y7: How to do a good mild n/a bulit on it?

It's really not worth building a Y7, but if you were going to do it PM7/P29 ZC pistons, Y8 intake manifold and a Z6/Y8 exhaust manifold or aftermarket header and a good tune will probably give you the best bang for your buck.
Reply
Old Mar 10, 2011 | 05:34 PM
  #5  
97.dx.coupe's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 9
Likes: 0
From: Austin,MN
Default Re: D16Y7: How to do a good mild n/a bulit on it?

I do have a full head off a D16Z6 would it be worth puttin on the Y7?
Reply
Old Mar 10, 2011 | 06:11 PM
  #6  
97.dx.coupe's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 9
Likes: 0
From: Austin,MN
Default Re: D16Y7: How to do a good mild n/a bulit on it?

There's a guy here in minnesota the rebuilt his D16Z6 with a .020 bore and with only the a intake and exaust put down 177.7 to the wheels.
Reply
Old Mar 10, 2011 | 06:26 PM
  #7  
UncleD's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
20 Year Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 8,465
Likes: 4
From: GO PACKERS
Default Re: D16Y7: How to do a good mild n/a bulit on it?

Bullshit.
Reply
Old Mar 10, 2011 | 06:28 PM
  #8  
bgdriver's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 449
Likes: 0
From: chicagoland, illinois, US
Default Re: D16Y7: How to do a good mild n/a bulit on it?

z6 IM, egay headers, mill head and a cam hat doesn't suck.
Reply
Old Mar 10, 2011 | 08:03 PM
  #9  
Randolph's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 92
Likes: 2
From: Long Island, New York
Default Re: I'm new.

Originally Posted by mcvtec
Welcome!



Don't bother, not worth the trouble or money. Seriously.

Swap or turbo.

I really like the Y7 the way it is. Yes it is slow, but it is very fuel efficient. I drive a lot on the highway and I frequently get 40-45 mpg during the warmer months.

I would have to agree. The Y7 is the best for fuel efficiency.
Reply
Old Mar 11, 2011 | 05:56 AM
  #10  
97.dx.coupe's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 9
Likes: 0
From: Austin,MN
Default Re: D16Y7: How to do a good mild n/a bulit on it?

http://www.mnhondas.com/showthread.p...107#post247107
Reply
Old Mar 11, 2011 | 06:01 AM
  #11  
97.dx.coupe's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 9
Likes: 0
From: Austin,MN
Default Re: D16Y7: How to do a good mild n/a bulit on it?

There's a link to the thread about the 177.7 D-series. For the non believers. But I am considering a head swap. Like I stated in a previous post. I have a D16Z6 head and intake manifold. And a P28 hondata. And debating on using a ls throttle body. Would this make a difference or would it be all the work and no gain???
Reply
Old Mar 11, 2011 | 06:24 AM
  #12  
grumblemarc's Avatar
The Grumpiest
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 28,333
Likes: 24
From: Oak Ridge, TN, USA
Default Re: D16Y7: How to do a good mild n/a bulit on it?

Originally Posted by 97.dx.coupe
There's a guy here in minnesota the rebuilt his D16Z6 with a .020 bore and with only the a intake and exaust put down 177.7 to the wheels.
Mistype? 127.2 Max HP according to the dyno sheet. No where on that page can I find reference to a 177.7 hp number.
Reply
Old Mar 11, 2011 | 07:26 AM
  #13  
97.dx.coupe's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 9
Likes: 0
From: Austin,MN
Default Re: D16Y7: How to do a good mild n/a bulit on it?

Yes mistype. I'm doing this from my cell. Anyways. About this Y7 bulid. The real reason I posted this. Should I do the head swap or just swap the intake mani or what? I have owned a H swapped 95 coupe and would rather go fast with gas mileage Hence y I wanna do a D. Right now its only got a header and I'm gonna get exhaust.
Reply
Old Mar 11, 2011 | 07:34 AM
  #14  
grumblemarc's Avatar
The Grumpiest
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 28,333
Likes: 24
From: Oak Ridge, TN, USA
Default Re: D16Y7: How to do a good mild n/a bulit on it?

You're talking about a Mini-Me swap Check the FAQ. Even after you do the swap you'll still be slow. You won't come anywhere near a swapped H for horsepower. An intake manifold swap will get you a little HP. The whole Z6 head swap a little more.

Boost it or swap it.
Reply
Old Mar 11, 2011 | 08:03 AM
  #15  
97.dx.coupe's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 9
Likes: 0
From: Austin,MN
Default Re: D16Y7: How to do a good mild n/a bulit on it?

How hard is it to junkyard boost my car?
Reply
Old Mar 11, 2011 | 08:07 AM
  #16  
grumblemarc's Avatar
The Grumpiest
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 28,333
Likes: 24
From: Oak Ridge, TN, USA
Default Re: D16Y7: How to do a good mild n/a bulit on it?

http://www.homemadeturbo.com/
Reply
Old Mar 11, 2011 | 09:18 AM
  #17  
97.dx.coupe's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 9
Likes: 0
From: Austin,MN
Default Re: D16Y7: How to do a good mild n/a bulit on it?

New idea. A buddy just called and he's buying a crx with a D15. Would that be a better block for the Z6 head??
Reply
Old Mar 11, 2011 | 09:20 AM
  #18  
grumblemarc's Avatar
The Grumpiest
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 28,333
Likes: 24
From: Oak Ridge, TN, USA
Default Re: D16Y7: How to do a good mild n/a bulit on it?

It has even LESS displacement and will still be slow. For D-series either boost or swap or give it up.
Reply
Old Mar 11, 2011 | 10:20 AM
  #19  
97.dx.coupe's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 9
Likes: 0
From: Austin,MN
Default Re: D16Y7: How to do a good mild n/a bulit on it?

I ask because there's is a mini me swap that makes high compression. And if its using the 1.5 block I will. No everyone either has a b series or k series. I have even thought about the j series. Everyone says swap. I wanna use a D I just would like to know how to make power with it without swapping. And I have a set of B16 pistons and rods. A turbo off a eclipse. And a lot of D-series stuff.
Reply
Old Mar 11, 2011 | 10:23 AM
  #20  
Libertariat's Avatar
Ek Forever y0!
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 16,712
Likes: 9
From: Beating people with a stick, GA
Default Re: D16Y7: How to do a good mild n/a bulit on it?

buy my stuff, for starters:

http://www.hondamarketplace.com/show...7#post44842757

And then boost it.

With a mild boost build you could still get ~30mpg with little trouble and a medium sized turbo.
Reply
Old Mar 11, 2011 | 10:28 AM
  #21  
grumblemarc's Avatar
The Grumpiest
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 28,333
Likes: 24
From: Oak Ridge, TN, USA
Default Re: D16Y7: How to do a good mild n/a bulit on it?

Originally Posted by 97.dx.coupe
I ask because there's is a mini me swap that makes high compression.
So? What horsepower is it making? Not enough to go fast.

How to make power on a D-series? And the answer is the same. You cannot change the laws of physics. You cannot make any real power on a D without boost. The D-series is the economy motor of the Honda line so to speak. Go ahead and try and you will be slower than minivans and very unhappy as CRVs leave you at lights.

Boost it or go home.
Reply
Old Mar 11, 2011 | 10:30 AM
  #22  
Libertariat's Avatar
Ek Forever y0!
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 16,712
Likes: 9
From: Beating people with a stick, GA
Default Re: D16Y7: How to do a good mild n/a bulit on it?

Originally Posted by grumblemarc
So? What horsepower is it making? Not enough to go fast.

How to make power on a D-series? And the answer is the same. You cannot change the laws of physics. You cannot make any real power on a D without boost. The D-series is the economy motor of the Honda line so to speak. Go ahead and try and you will be slower than minivans and very unhappy as CRVs leave you at lights.

Boost it or go home.
I don't get this guy. He wants good gas milage and more power. There's no such thing.

By the time you made a naturally aspirated d-series that made decent power (i.e. 160whp) you'd be getting like 20mpg.

There are much more efficient ways of getting good power. Besides, your "h-swapped" eg should be capable of getting 26-30mpg if driven properly.
Reply
Old Mar 11, 2011 | 10:52 AM
  #23  
98civdx's Avatar
Master Detailer
 
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 15,511
Likes: 22
Default Re: D16Y7: How to do a good mild n/a bulit on it?

Don't bother with the Y7, I have one, I am speaking from experience. The only thing this engine is going to do without a **** of money, or turbo is get good gas mileage. That's what they are BUILT for!

Not to be rude, but you need to search. You really have got no clue what your getting your self into.

You either need to sell some organs on the black market, and do a N/A build, or Boost it, or swap it.
Boost is the only way to make good power with a single cam.

Do us all a favor and search.
Reply
Old Mar 11, 2011 | 10:55 AM
  #24  
Red_Army's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 2,039
Likes: 0
From: nowhere ville.
Default Re: D16Y7: How to do a good mild n/a bulit on it?

your choice is boost. that is your only choice. or about 50k and still being stomped by stock b18s. not literally but i wouldn't be suprised if it lost to many.
Reply
Old Mar 22, 2013 | 03:58 PM
  #25  
strongback's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 5
Likes: 0
Default Re: D16Y7: How to do a good mild n/a bulit on it?

ok i have a d16y7 i have just bought a shunk 2 intake manifold ,skunk2 rockers an piston rings .wat type of piston should i get an how much should i bore out my engine block am trying to go an all motor beast .i dont like turbo turbo is for cheaters an i hate nos i want to feel that raw power some one help me out
Reply



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 10:31 PM.