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Old Mar 9, 2011 | 04:54 PM
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I have a 93 civic eg hatch with rear disc brakes non abs. my stock prop valve went bad so i replaced it with a 40/40 prop valve the stock one was a 40/30 or 30/40. i Was wondering do i need the integra master cylinder to go with the 40/40 valve? Thank you.
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Old Mar 9, 2011 | 05:43 PM
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you should be good with just the 40/40.. do a little more research tho
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Old Mar 9, 2011 | 05:47 PM
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yes im trying i cant really find any info.
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Old Mar 9, 2011 | 05:55 PM
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i'm pretty sure you just need the 40/40
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Old Mar 9, 2011 | 06:45 PM
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I have the 40/40 on there but the stock one was like a 30 40 or somthing like that and my brakes still feel spongy maybe just needs bled more.
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Old Mar 13, 2011 | 09:27 PM
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Old Mar 13, 2011 | 09:37 PM
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Only if you put DC brakes in front.

Try bleeding the brakes a bit more.
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Old Mar 14, 2011 | 08:41 AM
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about to do the same thing, my 3040 went bad (93 si), and couldn't find a replacement, so was gonna swap a 4040 on it
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Old Mar 14, 2011 | 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by sextav6
about to do the same thing, my 3040 went bad (93 si), and couldn't find a replacement, so was gonna swap a 4040 on it
Some sedans with rear drums used the same prop valve. Compare part numbers to a '92 - '93 Si hatch and see what else uses the same valve.
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Old Mar 14, 2011 | 09:06 AM
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Taking a look behind my firewall it looks like the civic DX hatch doesn't have a 4040 prop valve, unless I can't find it. I've seen varying statements about the prop valve in my car. And part numbers even match:


46210-S04-952 VALVE ASSY., PROPORTIONING 1998 INTEGRA RS
46210-S04-902 VALVE ASSY., PROPORTIONING 2000 CIVIC CX Hatch
46210-S04-902 VALVE ASSY., PROPORTIONING 2000 CIVIC DX Hatch
46210-S04-902 VALVE ASSY., PROPORTIONING 2000 CIVIC DX Coupe
46210-S04-902 VALVE ASSY., PROPORTIONING 2000 CIVIC HX Coupe
46210-S04-902 VALVE ASSY., PROPORTIONING 2000 CIVIC SI Coupe

46210-S04-912 VALVE ASSY., PROPORTIONING 2000 CIVIC DX Sedan
46210-S04-912 VALVE ASSY., PROPORTIONING 2000 CIVIC DX-V Sedan
46210-S04-912 VALVE ASSY., PROPORTIONING 2000 CIVIC LX Sedan
46210-S04-922 VALVE ASSY., PROPORTIONING 2000 CIVIC GX Sedan
46210-S04-962 VALVE ASSY., PROPORTIONING 2000 CIVIC EX Coupe

I have a 4040 prop valve I ordered, and I don't see anything like it under my hood.
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Old Mar 14, 2011 | 11:17 PM
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I will try bleeding it a little more and see what happens! I hopes its good I have an event to attend on the 20th and hope the brakes are good lol.
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Old Mar 15, 2011 | 05:22 AM
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Originally Posted by 94EG8
Some sedans with rear drums used the same prop valve. Compare part numbers to a '92 - '93 Si hatch and see what else uses the same valve.
yea there are several others that use the 3040, but I dont have access to many junkyards, unless I want to drive 2 hours to el paso, which I suppose isnt out of the question.
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Old Mar 15, 2011 | 05:35 AM
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Originally Posted by ek forever guy
Taking a look behind my firewall it looks like the civic DX hatch doesn't have a 4040 prop valve, unless I can't find it. I've seen varying statements about the prop valve in my car. And part numbers even match.
If the part numbers match they're the same.

Originally Posted by ek forever guy
I have a 4040 prop valve I ordered, and I don't see anything like it under my hood.
Those part numbers are all for '96 - '00 Civics, and '98 Integra. '92 - '95 Civics are different. Basically '92 - '95 Civics and '90 - '97 Integras all share prop valves that look externally identical. '96 - '00 Civics and '98 - '01 Integras share prop valves that look externally identical. These two different styles are completely different and aren't interchangeable unless you feel like bending and flaring a bunch of lines.
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Old Mar 15, 2011 | 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by ek forever guy
Taking a look behind my firewall it looks like the civic DX hatch doesn't have a 4040 prop valve, unless I can't find it. I've seen varying statements about the prop valve in my car. And part numbers even match:

I have a 4040 prop valve I ordered, and I don't see anything like it under my hood.

Which one did you order? You didn't get the EG/DC kind, did you?
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Old Mar 15, 2011 | 11:34 AM
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Current prop valve:



4040 prop valve




Edit: Woot, 12,000 posts.
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Old Mar 15, 2011 | 11:40 AM
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Yep, you have got the wrong one.
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Old Mar 15, 2011 | 11:41 AM
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Bottom pic is for EG civic
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Old Mar 15, 2011 | 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by 98civdx
Yep, you have got the wrong one.
Are you saying my current prop valve is the wrong one? The car was bone stock when I got it.

The new one has 4040 stamped on it.
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Old Mar 15, 2011 | 11:45 AM
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No, the prop valve you bought will not fit. Well it will, but wont be a bolt in process.

You bought the wrong prop valve for the your car. That is for EG/DC.
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Old Mar 15, 2011 | 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by 98civdx
No, the prop valve you bought will not fit. Well it will, but wont be a bolt in process.

You bought the wrong prop valve for the your car. That is for EG/DC.
I was getting that impression once I got it. And having done some reading all 96-00 civics have the same prop valve, so is it 4040? Because the Si had rear discs from the factory.

Or did EX/si civics with rear discs use a 4030?
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Old Mar 15, 2011 | 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by ek forever guy
I was getting that impression once I got it. And having done some reading all 96-00 civics have the same prop valve, so is it 4040? Because the Si had rear discs from the factory.

Or did EX/si civics with rear discs use a 4030?
The CX, DX, and HX use a smaller front disc than the EX/Sis of 96-00, I believe. The EX has the larger front discs of the Si but drums in the rear. So that is why I think they use a different prop valve. If you upgrade to Si front and rear disc brakes, and you have a CX, DX or HX model, you don't have to swap prop valves.
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Old Mar 15, 2011 | 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by ek forever guy
I was getting that impression once I got it. And having done some reading all 96-00 civics have the same prop valve, so is it 4040? Because the Si had rear discs from the factory.

Or did EX/si civics with rear discs use a 4030?
EX's have a different prop valve.
I have got no clue why Honda did it this way.But they did.

You have the same as a 99-00 SI.
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Old Mar 15, 2011 | 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by B18CivicEJ8
The CX, DX, and HX use a smaller front disc than the EX/Sis of 96-00, I believe. The EX has the larger front discs of the Si but drums in the rear. So that is why I think they use a different prop valve. If you upgrade to Si front and rear disc brakes, and you have a CX, DX or HX model, you don't have to swap prop valves.
They did, 9.6'' to the EX/SI 10.3''

The EX has 10.3''F and drum rear.
Si is 10.3''F and 9.6''R? I think this is correct.
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Old Mar 15, 2011 | 12:51 PM
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Ex/si front brakes are the same IIRC
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Old Mar 16, 2011 | 09:33 AM
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you need the 4040 prop valve for the ek!
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