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Old Mar 3, 2011 | 06:25 PM
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I gotta 94 si hatch and i need some good suspension im lookin to spend around 8 or 900 bucks on shocks and spring whats the best bang for the buck its gotta a h2b swap which is kinda heavy im probably goin back b series though before to long and i want ride height adjustability cause i have speed bumps to go over where i live and i want a decent ride and a great handle any suggestions
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Old Mar 3, 2011 | 08:02 PM
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https://honda-tech.com/forums/wheels-tires-brakes-suspension-48/koni-shock-ground-control-coilover-combo-2028746/
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Old Mar 4, 2011 | 08:59 AM
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My friend has a 94
gsr with the same suspension setup and it looks like the ground control coilovers are raised almost to the top of the sleeve and its still like a inch and a half off the ground i deff dnt want my car that low what yall think
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Old Mar 4, 2011 | 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by dohcvtec92
My friend has a 94
gsr with the same suspension setup and it looks like the ground control coilovers are raised almost to the top of the sleeve and its still like a inch and a half off the ground i deff dnt want my car that low what yall think
sounds like the springs are too short
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Old Mar 5, 2011 | 04:43 AM
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U think they might have put the wrong springs on it cause they say there should be good adjustability in that setup.
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Old Mar 5, 2011 | 05:51 AM
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With that budget, without a doubt get koni and ground control.


Also, put the "h2b = extra weight" argument to the side. It's a fallacy.

AT THE MOST an h22 engine block might weigh 25-30lbs more than a b-series. And about 40lbs more than a d-series.'

If it's that big of a deal, relocate your battery.

Don't put stupid high rates on the front to compensate for negligible weight gain.

OTS rates would be fine.
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Old Mar 7, 2011 | 09:07 AM
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Are there any better springs that are better with the koni yellows or should i just go with the ground controls
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Old Mar 8, 2011 | 02:45 AM
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Originally Posted by dohcvtec92
Are there any better springs that are better with the koni yellows or should i just go with the ground controls
GO with the ground controls. Superior product, good warranty, good customer service.

Best coilover sleeve out there.
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Originally Posted by ek forever guy
With that budget, without a doubt get koni and ground control.


Also, put the "h2b = extra weight" argument to the side. It's a fallacy.

AT THE MOST an h22 engine block might weigh 25-30lbs more than a b-series. And about 40lbs more than a d-series.'

If it's that big of a deal, relocate your battery.

Don't put stupid high rates on the front to compensate for negligible weight gain.

OTS rates would be fine.
I always thought a D-series was around 250 lbs and H22 closer to 400 lbs. No?

But I definitely agree on Koni/GC. THM has some good folks there.
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Old Mar 8, 2011 | 11:28 AM
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if u wanted to spend 900 bux why not just save up a little more and pick up some buddy clubs n+
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Old Mar 8, 2011 | 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by ysosrs
if u wanted to spend 900 bux why not just save up a little more and pick up some buddy clubs n+
Buddy Club N+ are like $650'ish
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Old Mar 8, 2011 | 01:45 PM
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Buddy Club N+ are like $650'ish
And they are also a huge waste of $650ish.
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Old Mar 8, 2011 | 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by PatrickGSR94
I always thought a D-series was around 250 lbs and H22 closer to 400 lbs. No?

But I definitely agree on Koni/GC. THM has some good folks there.
H block- 123
B Block 104
D Block 100

That is just for the short block.

H trans- 96
B trans- 90

There is a deffinet increase, but It really isn't as high as people say it is. Add on im, header and everything else. It still isn't that large of a difference.
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Old Mar 8, 2011 | 05:10 PM
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Default Re: I need suspension, HELP!

^ doesn't the way the H mounts in a civic put that weight further forward which is whats causes the difference and less so the actual weight increase, just asking I have no H series experience
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Old Mar 8, 2011 | 05:17 PM
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If you are mounting an h22 with an h22 transmission that is typically the case. It is a mild concern that is often negated now with the development of the h2b kit. The h2b kits makes it such that I see no reason to do an old fashioned h22 swap with the cable shifter.
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Old Mar 8, 2011 | 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by egsleepercivic
^ doesn't the way the H mounts in a civic put that weight further forward which is whats causes the difference and less so the actual weight increase, just asking I have no H series experience
Yea, kind of. They sit diferently then other motors.

At the last HT meet, there a eg that a h22 swap. It was tilted so far forward, and sat so heigh they had to trim for the mani and valve cover to fit. Looked discusting, and undoubtably put the axles at horrible angles....



I'm looking for head weights of each motor, just for a little extra info.
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Old Mar 9, 2011 | 02:18 AM
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The h2b in contrast sits "correctly" in the engine bay. Negating the axle issues as the b-series transmission sits in the same place a normal b-series swap does. Thus negating some of the handling issues.

Also the hood closes. Depending on which kit you use for the eg, but it's not a problem in 96-00 civics.
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