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Old Feb 20, 2011 | 09:10 PM
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Default BWR vs ASR subframe brace...does the BWR SUCK?

Can anyone compare the two? Looking at saving a couple bucks by going with the BWR one. Just wanting to know how good/bad it is. Someone posted that it was a low quality product so wanted some more opinions.

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Old Feb 20, 2011 | 09:16 PM
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I shopped around and bought a Function7 brace for $180, i think it's better than both of the bars you are looking at


Old Feb 20, 2011 | 09:22 PM
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F7 is nice. the bolts look better than what you get with ASR. my LCA bolts from ASR are rusted. If the F7 had been out when I got a rear sway I would have got that. I like the ASR too though. Does what it needs to.
Old Feb 20, 2011 | 09:36 PM
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i have the BWR one on my coupe, i havent had any issues with it and i don't feel like its cheaply made. They are just slabs of alluminum anyways.
Old Feb 20, 2011 | 09:54 PM
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BWR is a poser knock-off company like blox. Thats why all their parts are cheaper. I personally don't support those companies.....steal everyones research and call it theirs. Not to mention lowball them cause 5 yr old chinese girl made it.
Old Feb 20, 2011 | 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by 93egSLEEPER
BWR is a poser knock-off company like blox. Thats why all their parts are cheaper. I personally don't support those companies.....steal everyones research and call it theirs. Not to mention lowball them cause 5 yr old chinese girl made it.
Statments like these pretty ignorant. If you have an issue with things made in China, you should really take a good look at the stuff you have around you and the stuff you are probably wearing. Just MHO.
Old Feb 20, 2011 | 11:03 PM
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To all the other posters, thanks for the input. I guess I will probably make my decision on whichever one is available locally and instock.
Old Feb 20, 2011 | 11:06 PM
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Agree with Sleeper 100% i dont buy any of the knock off ****. i keep my **** fresh with real parts ya asr is made in the usa but there the original and not some shitty made in china $1.00 store ****

Just got my new one this last week

Old Feb 20, 2011 | 11:07 PM
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And if u ever had a problem with ur ASR they will do more than go out of their way to fix the issue! With the other ones what you buy is what you pay for and thats it!
Old Feb 20, 2011 | 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by *JDM*Ej8*
Agree with Sleeper 100% i dont buy any of the knock off ****. i keep my **** fresh with real parts ya asr is made in the usa but there the original and not some shitty made in china $1.00 store ****

Just got my new one this last week

I asked for opinions on the quality. Not stuff about knock offs and how fresh $hit is. I am sick and tired of this $hit.

BTW: where is your t-shirt and underwear made? I am pretty sure you use something or wear something or touch something that is made in China. So enough about that $hit.

Another low quality products that are produced in China or anywhere else are only subpar because of the quality control which is controlled by the company and is not a function of China's manufacturing capabilities. So stop being ignorant.

Just because something is made in the USA doesn't mean it's high quality ****. Don't make me name $hit plz.
Old Feb 20, 2011 | 11:20 PM
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Just saying if you want a good quality product that stands behind their product go with the ASR. Would you go to walmart to buy a set of tools? Or go to Sears and buy Craftsmans Made in USA like the ASR and have the craftsman stand behind there $hit and if it breaks take it back and get a new one or keep buying the walmart or other knock off china brands every time they break? Same situation. You get what you pay for
Old Feb 20, 2011 | 11:20 PM
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Statments like these pretty ignorant. If you have an issue with things made in China, you should really take a good look at the stuff you have around you and the stuff you are probably wearing. Just MHO.
Sorry if i hurt your feelings, get over it. Clothing and McDonalds toys are 100% different from car parts. support the companies that support our sport and reap the benefits. Your canadian so I guess supporting the US economy isnt in your interest. go ahead but the chinese junk twice.
Old Feb 20, 2011 | 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by 93egSLEEPER
Sorry if i hurt your feelings, get over it. Clothing and McDonalds toys are 100% different from car parts. support the companies that support our sport and reap the benefits.
Nah, didn't hurt my feelings. Just sick of those comments. Either way thanks for the info on the ASR.
Old Feb 20, 2011 | 11:23 PM
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Im a realist. Oh well.
Old Feb 20, 2011 | 11:25 PM
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x2^^ Going to hondatech sleeper? im from wa too
Old Feb 20, 2011 | 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by *JDM*Ej8*
x2^^ Going to hondatech sleeper? im from wa too
naw man Im in ND going to school and playing baseball. Wont be home til after season in june.
Old Feb 20, 2011 | 11:31 PM
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Thats no good its gunna be a good meet this year got the strip open and everything
Old Feb 21, 2011 | 02:33 AM
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OP - just pony up and get the ASR combo with the sway bar. you can't go wrong with it and know you'll have a quality product.

our local shops carry it since you're from Vancouver as well, if not they can order it in for you.

your friend that tore his subframe could have had other factors in that as well (ie: EK's are worse than EG/DC, soft springs, sticky tires, etc).
Old Feb 21, 2011 | 03:42 AM
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I've been using the ASR brace on my 96 hatch since it first came out. Quality is impeccable. If I had to buy another one, the only other I would look at is the Function7, as F7 and ASR are the only companies that actually use R&D to develop their parts (hence the only companies likely to produce any new parts in the future and be around long enough for whenever customer support is needed in 5 or 10 years).
Old Feb 21, 2011 | 04:27 AM
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H-T is full of haters.

To get back on topic, I've read from a couple of people on H-T that the BWR brace had issues with the bolts holes. They were slightly off.

EDIT: https://honda-tech.com/forums/acura-integra-6/bwr-rear-subframe-oem-rear-sway-2842685/
Old Feb 21, 2011 | 06:54 AM
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I've had my BWR subframe on for a while now with no problems. The quality is good and I had no fitment issues at all. I just installed one on my friend's car a few days ago.

Personally I got it because I didn't want to follow everyone else and go with an ASR brace, plus I prefer how they look compared to the ASR. I installed an ASR brace on another friend's car a while back and comparing the material of it to the BWR I'd say they're pretty much the same thickness. They're pretty much just slabs of aluminum as someone said lol.

But going back to it's performance it works just fine as I said, and it's cheaper so that's a plus. I've done 2 installs with no fitment issues, and they use your stock LCA bolts.

Here's my setup:




-Megan Racing LCAs
-BWR subframe brace
-ITR 22mm rear sway bar
-Function Form Type 1 coilovers
-BWR Rear Tow Hook (not a fan of tow hooks but it was a birthday present from my sister so I put it on)
Old Feb 21, 2011 | 07:05 AM
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And as for the the link provided above mine, the reason he was having problems with the holes lining up is because there are 2 sets of holes on the brace that he can use. Since he's using the a smaller OEM GSR sway bar, the D-brackets would have to be bent in a little bit to line up with the holes. They're not that misaligned though. My friend used his OEM GSR sway bar and I had to bend the bracket in a little bit (a few millimeters in). It's just as mentioned, these braces were designed for larger sway bars since the stock ones (12mm-13mm) don't require any bracing.
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What car is that brace installed on VI BOOST? I just bought on and was wondering if you have to use nuts on the back of the bolts.
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Originally Posted by gutted-dx
What car is that brace installed on VI BOOST? I just bought on and was wondering if you have to use nuts on the back of the bolts.
96-00 Civic
Old Feb 21, 2011 | 07:54 AM
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hmm since its just a piece of metal the only issue will be bolts and alignment. personally from everything else and they're other products. no thanks on BWR. not to mention comparing how close the F7(real company) and bwr look is almost exact.

pony up the few extra especially if your going to track it. sure you can track your car with knock offs and cheap products but why increase your chances of things going wrong midtrack with cheap parts?

ASR or F7.

walmart, my clothes, anything else made in china doesn't need RandD to make it. performance parts do. chinese knock offs use cheaper products and have no R&D just buy a good one and copy it to the best. it is annoying and doesn't further the sport any just floods the market with garbage. it is an issue whether you like to hear about it or not. or you buy alot of chinese parts and are getting sick of hearing it.
yes the BWR sucks.



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