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Old Feb 20, 2011 | 10:45 AM
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So iv been readin up and checkin out turbo'd s2k's and i can't decide to go with a t3 or t4 setup. I have had guys swear by t4 setups because of the flow of the f20 head, and iv also had other guys push me towards t3 for spool up purposes and the fact that you can pick up precision 62's that can make a bunch of power 700whp+

I am shooting for around the 500whp mark eventually, this summer i would like to be around the 400whp mark but i don't want my setup to be maxed out and have to replace a bunch of parts when i want to turn it up. Its going to be a street car that see's the strip maybe a couple times a summer.

So im looking for EXPERIENCED peoples opinions, if you haven't done it or don't even own or mess with s2k's please don't post i am lookin for people who have tried it and have a honest experienced opinion about t3's and t4 setups on these cars

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Old Feb 20, 2011 | 01:00 PM
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6262sp. Its a T3. A lot of the newer turbos are T3 and not T4. you seem to know more then 99% of the people who post in the S2k forum already.
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Old Feb 20, 2011 | 01:40 PM
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T3's are more than capable of 500whp on a tubular manifold, but if you ever decide to push the envelope towards 700whp there may be more T4 options available with 700whp within the efficiency range.
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Old Feb 20, 2011 | 01:51 PM
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alright it seems like there are more people for t3 than for t4
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Old Feb 20, 2011 | 02:08 PM
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alright it seems like there are more people for t3 than for t4
Yeah, I was reading the thread on S2ki.
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Old Feb 20, 2011 | 02:19 PM
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T3's are more than capable of 500whp on a tubular manifold, but if you ever decide to push the envelope towards 700whp there may be more T4 options available with 700whp within the efficiency range.
I'm this saying 500 WHP is alout. 350WHP would be a safer shot to go for and you don't have to thing about all the time is your engine goin to be ok for this.


WHAT I ALWAYS SAY IS THAT. It doesn't mater how fast your going but about how much fun your having. There is always goin to be someone faster then you so why not this have fun and stay safe.
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Old Feb 20, 2011 | 02:29 PM
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I'm this saying 500 WHP is alout. 350WHP would be a safer shot to go for and you don't have to thing about all the time is your engine goin to be ok for this.


WHAT I ALWAYS SAY IS THAT. It doesn't mater how fast your going but about how much fun your having. There is always goin to be someone faster then you so why not this have fun and stay safe.
You're wrong. 350whp on the street and you'll get smoked by corvettes, 500whp on the street and you'll only get smoked by a handful of exotics.
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Old Feb 20, 2011 | 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Ruckus2009
I'm this saying 500 WHP is alout. 350WHP would be a safer shot to go for and you don't have to thing about all the time is your engine goin to be ok for this.


WHAT I ALWAYS SAY IS THAT. It doesn't mater how fast your going but about how much fun your having. There is always goin to be someone faster then you so why not this have fun and stay safe.
maybe some people need more then 350 horse to have fun? I wasnt happy with that at all. It felt slow after a few days.

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You're wrong. 350whp on the street and you'll get smoked by corvettes, 500whp on the street and you'll only get smoked by a handful of exotics.
Who wants a car that will lose to a old man in a vette?!?!
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Old Feb 20, 2011 | 05:24 PM
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ya not shooting for 350whp thats not very much power for the amount of money im putting into the turbo setup it would be a waste of time and money, if i only wanted 350hp i would buy a direct port nitrous kit for $1200 and call it a day
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Old Feb 20, 2011 | 07:01 PM
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350-400whp on an S2000 with a T3 flanged setup is more than enough to take out a few vettes, Vipers and evolutions. Maybe you guys just aren't driving it right.

Direct answer, T3 flanged system works best for your options.
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Old Feb 20, 2011 | 07:13 PM
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350-400whp on an S2000 with a T3 flanged setup is more than enough to take out a few vettes, Vipers and evolutions. Maybe you guys just aren't driving it right.

Direct answer, T3 flanged system works best for your options.
you sure? lol i don't think you've looked up the stats on a vette... torque wins races, horsepower sells cars... a cammed V8 in a ~32-3300lb chassis is no slug ill tell you that right now lol
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Old Feb 21, 2011 | 04:25 AM
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Originally Posted by TheShodan
350-400whp on an S2000 with a T3 flanged setup is more than enough to take out a few vettes, Vipers and evolutions. Maybe you guys just aren't driving it right.

Direct answer, T3 flanged system works best for your options.
350 is going to keep up with the 800 horse evo down the street or the 600 horse civic next door? maybe you dont live around the right people?
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Old Feb 21, 2011 | 04:36 AM
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350 is going to keep up with the 800 horse evo down the street or the 600 horse civic next door? maybe you dont live around the right people?

id have fun with 350...i mean, i dont know too many people that do have 800hp evos or 600hp civics...and i rarely see those caliber cars on the street..
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Old Feb 21, 2011 | 04:44 AM
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id have fun with 350...i mean, i dont know too many people that do have 800hp evos or 600hp civics...and i rarely see those caliber cars on the street..
500whp smokes a GTR if you're at a roll, 350whp gets laughed at.
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Old Feb 21, 2011 | 04:47 AM
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500whp smokes a GTR if you're at a roll, 350whp gets laughed at.
that would be fine by me...i wouldnt race it because ive outgrown that, i would ,however, have a **** ton of fun with it especially since ive driven a stock-ish S for 3 years lol....and once again, thats another car i dont see on the road either lol
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Old Feb 21, 2011 | 05:09 AM
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out here, they're ******** harassing everyone lol..
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out here, they're ******** harassing everyone lol..
yea, plus our roads around here arent exactly conducive to driving fast....unless you want to dodge pot holes and bumps at 100mph
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Old Feb 21, 2011 | 02:34 PM
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id have fun with 350...i mean, i dont know too many people that do have 800hp evos or 600hp civics...and i rarely see those caliber cars on the street..
Its a sport. Some people go pro some people dont. you might also want to race more then cars. Its like anything else you or anyone else does for fun. Its how much you are into it and what you do with it.
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500whp smokes a GTR if you're at a roll, 350whp gets laughed at.
true story.
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Old Feb 28, 2011 | 10:04 AM
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i don't think you've looked up the stats on a vette... torque wins races, horsepower sells cars...
My god this is about the dumbest thing I've seen posted in quite some time.

Not to call you out, but more "doing," and less "looking up stats," will help you a bit. There.. I did it, something constructive.

To the OP, like they've said use a t3 frame, you can easily meet your goals, and have the advantage of quicker spool with a T3 frame.
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Old Feb 28, 2011 | 01:29 PM
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My god this is about the dumbest thing I've seen posted in quite some time.

Not to call you out, but more "doing," and less "looking up stats," will help you a bit. There.. I did it, something constructive.

To the OP, like they've said use a t3 frame, you can easily meet your goals, and have the advantage of quicker spool with a T3 frame.
Christ the idiocy of your statements is perplexing. Who in their right mind would show someone on the internet a race? Retard. "Stats" is the only reference you have over the internet wouldn't you agree?

I've personally smoked an M5 and Z06 when I had my turbo S, do you think every member on this board has done that too?
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My god this is about the dumbest thing I've seen posted in quite some time.

Not to call you out, but more "doing," and less "looking up stats," will help you a bit. There.. I did it, something constructive.

To the OP, like they've said use a t3 frame, you can easily meet your goals, and have the advantage of quicker spool with a T3 frame.
Isnt it a flange? just sayin...
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I had a T3 log, Precision 5857 JB, fully spooled right at 4000rpms. IMO its a perfect fit for this car if your goal is ~400whp. Just enough out of boost range for when the weather is bad, or you don't feel like getting on it. But it can be there fast if you need it.

Cant really comment on a T4 flanged turbo/manifold because I've never had one.
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Old Feb 28, 2011 | 08:38 PM
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i already decided to go t3 i ordered the turbo last week 62mm innovative and i got all the material to start fabbin my sidewinder last week just waiting on the collector
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Christ the idiocy of your statements is perplexing.
This may be a native state for you, I'm suspecting. Though it is early, so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.

"Stats" is the only reference you have over the internet wouldn't you agree?
Then do less arguing over the Internet, and more "doing," and it'll solve your problem.

I've personally smoked an M5 and Z06 when I had my turbo S, do you think every member on this board has done that too?
I'm not entirely sure what this has to do with the price of tea in china, unless you're trying to validate the fact that you have "done," something in the past. Which at no point have I doubted, I just simply suggested you do more of it and quit "looking up stats." It'll reduce your desire to get into bench racing arguments on the Internet.

Now, why I think your comment was retarded:
Attempting to segregate Hp and TQ. Claiming one is for performance and one is for "wow factor." It's not only misinformation it's retarded and sounds like you've regurgitated the saying from someone you idolized, but was more incorrect than you are. Aside from the glaringly obvious fact that HP is nothing more than TQ quantified by a measurement of time, they are very much the same thing and both are required to measure a vehicles performance (and then some). Let's use an example.. I have a very low TQ output, yet will pull busses and busses on said M5, Z06, or your turbo S . A further example of your idiocy in that statement, is that despite your turbo S beating said vehicles, the vehicles you listed I'd wager, still made buckets more TQ than your turbo S, and yet.. You still won. Clearly TQ isn't the only factor to winning races is it? That HP likely had more to do with your S than just a fancy price point.
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Originally Posted by HondaKyle
Isnt it a flange? just sayin...
A flange is simply the footprint that the turbo uses to bolt to the manifold. With a blank and a welder you could technically put any flange on any turbine side.. Not that you'd want to, but you could.

My verbiage of "frame," indicates that it was originally built and assembled on the T3 family of turbos, regardless of which bolt pattern is on the turbo.
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