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Old Feb 18, 2011 | 04:14 PM
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I drive a manual. Sometimes when I'm at a stop and the light turns green the stick doesn't go in to 1st from nuetral. So I press down the the clutch pedal again and usually the second try gets it in there. Its not that bad because it doesn't do it too often, but why could this be happening? Is there anything moderately easy I could do to make this stop happening?
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Old Feb 18, 2011 | 04:16 PM
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its a saftey feature that honda has so you cant down shift to 1st if your are moving more that Xmph....i would just learn to live with
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Old Feb 18, 2011 | 05:02 PM
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Really? Well if its normal for that to happen at a complete stop I will. I've known its supposed to do that if I'm at too high of a speed to down shift.
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Old Feb 18, 2011 | 07:28 PM
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oh wait, i totally didnt read it right...i thought you were coming to a stop light, not taking off from one...hmmm i couldnt really be able to tell you then

bump for the right answer
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Old Feb 18, 2011 | 07:39 PM
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welll id check your tranny level fluid first then from there hmm i think it was syncro's or youur cmc (clutch master cylinder) or slave cylinder but that would be 4th
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Old Feb 18, 2011 | 08:36 PM
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Mine does the same after I installed my PSPEC short shifter. It won't go in gear at a dead stop. I always have to pop it into second and back into first before the green light hits; I got use to it doing it this way. Lol. I know it's not my slave or master clutch cyl nor the trans fluid because it did it to my F22B1 and on my H22A. My believe that it might be the shift cables may be binding, because thats the only thing I didn't change out when doing the JDM H22A swap.
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Old Feb 19, 2011 | 04:00 AM
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Default Re: Sometimes the stick doesn't go in to 1st gear.

Its honestly not that bad. It only does it like twice a week, its just a little annoying when there is a car directly behind me. All its going to take is for somebody to not be paying attention.
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Old Feb 19, 2011 | 04:03 AM
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Default Re: Sometimes the stick doesn't go in to 1st gear.

Originally Posted by nus_dogg
Mine does the same after I installed my PSPEC short shifter. It won't go in gear at a dead stop. I always have to pop it into second and back into first before the green light hits; I got use to it doing it this way. Lol. I know it's not my slave or master clutch cyl nor the trans fluid because it did it to my F22B1 and on my H22A. My believe that it might be the shift cables may be binding, because thats the only thing I didn't change out when doing the JDM H22A swap.
My bone stock EX sedan does this. I think it also might be the cables also. Is there anyway to lube them.
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Old Feb 19, 2011 | 08:43 AM
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My bone stock EX sedan does this. I think it also might be the cables also. Is there anyway to lube them.
Not that I know of, so I'm not sure either. I just got used to it.
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Old Feb 19, 2011 | 10:03 AM
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Default Re: Sometimes the stick doesn't go in to 1st gear.

Originally Posted by quickster
I drive a manual. Sometimes when I'm at a stop and the light turns green the stick doesn't go in to 1st from nuetral. So I press down the the clutch pedal again and usually the second try gets it in there. Its not that bad because it doesn't do it too often, but why could this be happening? Is there anything moderately easy I could do to make this stop happening?
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Its honestly not that bad. It only does it like twice a week, its just a little annoying when there is a car directly behind me. All its going to take is for somebody to not be paying attention.
It's completely normal. The synchronizer teeth do not always line up exactly even with each other when the transmission shafts come to a stop. Occasionally, they will stop in such a position that it blocks the synchronizer from engaging the gear.

Selecting another gear, allowing the car to roll slightly, or letting out the clutch pedal and then pushing it back in will rotate the shafts slightly and allow the synchro teeth to line up so that the shift fork can slide it onto the gear.

There is no way to prevent this from happening on occasion. Even a brand new transmission will do it.

Now, if you're having this problem every time you try to select a gear, it indicates that you may be having some sort of problem - depending on behavior, possibly a clutch problem, a hydraulics problem, a shift linkage problem, or an internal transmission problem.
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Old Feb 19, 2011 | 11:58 AM
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It's completely normal. The synchronizer teeth do not always line up exactly even with each other when the transmission shafts come to a stop. Occasionally, they will stop in such a position that it blocks the synchronizer from engaging the gear.

Selecting another gear, allowing the car to roll slightly, or letting out the clutch pedal and then pushing it back in will rotate the shafts slightly and allow the synchro teeth to line up so that the shift fork can slide it onto the gear.

There is no way to prevent this from happening on occasion. Even a brand new transmission will do it.

Now, if you're having this problem every time you try to select a gear, it indicates that you may be having some sort of problem - depending on behavior, possibly a clutch problem, a hydraulics problem, a shift linkage problem, or an internal transmission problem.
This makes me feel better about it. It doesn't do it every time. Usually just like once when I'm driving it. I don't know alot about the clutch and how it works yet, so I was just checking to see if that was normal. Thanks.
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Old Feb 19, 2011 | 12:39 PM
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Default Re: Sometimes the stick doesn't go in to 1st gear.

Originally Posted by quickster
Its honestly not that bad. It only does it like twice a week, its just a little annoying when there is a car directly behind me. All its going to take is for somebody to not be paying attention.
You can put the gear in 1st and keep the clutch pedal pressed down before the light turns green: this gives you more time to get in gear. With most of the cars having manual transmission here it is common practice (especially when your car is the first car at the traffic light).
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Old Feb 19, 2011 | 07:43 PM
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Holding in the clutch pedal puts excessive wear on the throw-out bearing. This will lead to premature clutch failure.

That would be my thoughts on that, especially since the transmission is stock in a 20 years old car.
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Old Feb 19, 2011 | 08:09 PM
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Default Re: Sometimes the stick doesn't go in to 1st gear.

Originally Posted by Targa250R
It's completely normal. The synchronizer teeth do not always line up exactly even with each other when the transmission shafts come to a stop. Occasionally, they will stop in such a position that it blocks the synchronizer from engaging the gear.

Selecting another gear, allowing the car to roll slightly, or letting out the clutch pedal and then pushing it back in will rotate the shafts slightly and allow the synchro teeth to line up so that the shift fork can slide it onto the gear.

There is no way to prevent this from happening on occasion. Even a brand new transmission will do it.

Now, if you're having this problem every time you try to select a gear, it indicates that you may be having some sort of problem - depending on behavior, possibly a clutch problem, a hydraulics problem, a shift linkage problem, or an internal transmission problem.
As Targa said^
This is probably what is going on. Ever try to go in reverse and it won't go so you have to either let it roll or pull up some then it will go in reverse? I would assume this is pretty much the same thing
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Old May 31, 2011 | 04:28 AM
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Default Re: Sometimes the stick doesn't go in to 1st gear.

mine does the same thing..wont go in first or reverse..and the skunk2 shortshifter is wobbly..how do i fix it
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