here are the rules for the FASTEST ALL MOTOR STREET CAR SHOOTOUT!!!!!
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well like the topic title says after thinking long and hard about this, here they are.
First things first there will be two classes "super stock street" and "outlaw street" the "super stock street" will run rules similar to IMSTAR'S with a few variations. the " outlaw street" will run a different set of rules. these rules are catered to all "street"cars so that there is no one left out and no one has an excuse
not to show up. all cars must also be registered and insured and show proof at the time of the event. well here are the rest of the rules like it or not.
"SUPER STOCK STREET"
Body: Aftermarket fiberglass or carbon fiber hoods, trunks lids, wings, ground effects, bumpers, and bolt on direct replacement front fenders are permitted. One-piece front ends are not permitted. All other body parts must be stock. Stock doors are required, and all windows must be functional. No body parts may be removed during competition. all stock glass must be retained.
Chassis: Full stock uni-body chassis with stock floors are required. Cutting or drilling for lightening purposes of chassis is not permitted.
Suspension: Stock suspension type cars only. Direct replacement A-arms are allowed. Aftermarket struts and shocks are allowed. Wheelie bars are not permitted. Functional shock absorber must be used on all four corners or the car.
Engine: Four cylinder. Any motor swaps are allowed, except as noted. Cars originally equipped with four cylinder engines may be swapped for any four cylinder engines. Engine used must be from the same manufacturer as car (Hondas can use Acura motors).
Power Adders: Not permitted, naturally aspirated engines only. If any part of a nitrous system is found on the car (i.e., bottle, brackets, nitrous lines or any solenoids), the car will be disqualified immediately.
Drivetrain: OEM transmission from the same manufacturer as car is required. . No independent rear suspension conversions to straight axle allowed. Aftermarket axles are allowed. Gear ratios may be changed. Aftermarket spools and upgraded positive traction differentials are allowed.
Street Equipment: OEM glass windows, headlights, brake lights, & full interior from both (2) front seats forward required. Aftermarket interior and seats are permitted. Stock dashboard is required. One headlight may be removed for air induction.
Exhaust: No required.
Tires: DOT tires allowed or 10.5" maximum slick permitted.
Fuel: Gasoline only permitted. Original stock gas tank must be used in car and must be functional, sumps are allowed.
Electronics: Two steps and trans brakes are allowed. Aftermarket ECU's and engine management systems allowed.
General: All general safety rules still apply.
Minimum Weights: 2250 lbs w/ driver
"OUTLAW STREET"
Body: aftermarket fiberglass or carbon fiber hoods,trunk lids,hatches,wings,ground effects,bumpers,and bolt on direct replacement front fenders are permitted ,stock doors are required, windshield and front door windows must be glass and door windows must be functional. no body panels may be removed during competition.
Chassis:full stock unibody chassis with stock floors are required.
Suspension:Stock suspension type cars only. direct replacement A-arms are allowed.aftermarket shocks and struts are allowed.wheelie bars are not permitted.fuctional shock absorber must be used at all corners of the car.
Engine: Four cylinder. motor swaps are allowed. motor must be from a honda or acura.
Power Adders: not permitted, naturally aspirated engines only. if any part of a nitrous system is found during tech you will automatically be disqualified.(ie..bottle,brackets,nitrous lines,or any solenoids)
Drivetrain
EM transmission from honda required. aftermarket axles allowed.gear ratios may be changed.aftemarket spools and upgraded positive traction differentials are allowed.
Street Equipment: front windshield and front door glass must be OEM.headlights,brakelights must be fuctional. only one seat required.stock dash required.one headlight may be removed for air induction.
Exhaust:Not required
Tires:10.5" maximum slick permitted
Fuel:Gasoline only permitted. Fuel cells pemitted if they are at least 8 gallon cells.
Electronics:two steps allowed. aftermarket ECU's and engine management systems allowed.
Minimum Weight: none
[Modified by vtecdoc, 7:51 AM 9/25/2002]
[Modified by vtecdoc, 6:35 PM 9/25/2002]
First things first there will be two classes "super stock street" and "outlaw street" the "super stock street" will run rules similar to IMSTAR'S with a few variations. the " outlaw street" will run a different set of rules. these rules are catered to all "street"cars so that there is no one left out and no one has an excuse
not to show up. all cars must also be registered and insured and show proof at the time of the event. well here are the rest of the rules like it or not.
"SUPER STOCK STREET"
Body: Aftermarket fiberglass or carbon fiber hoods, trunks lids, wings, ground effects, bumpers, and bolt on direct replacement front fenders are permitted. One-piece front ends are not permitted. All other body parts must be stock. Stock doors are required, and all windows must be functional. No body parts may be removed during competition. all stock glass must be retained.
Chassis: Full stock uni-body chassis with stock floors are required. Cutting or drilling for lightening purposes of chassis is not permitted.
Suspension: Stock suspension type cars only. Direct replacement A-arms are allowed. Aftermarket struts and shocks are allowed. Wheelie bars are not permitted. Functional shock absorber must be used on all four corners or the car.
Engine: Four cylinder. Any motor swaps are allowed, except as noted. Cars originally equipped with four cylinder engines may be swapped for any four cylinder engines. Engine used must be from the same manufacturer as car (Hondas can use Acura motors).
Power Adders: Not permitted, naturally aspirated engines only. If any part of a nitrous system is found on the car (i.e., bottle, brackets, nitrous lines or any solenoids), the car will be disqualified immediately.
Drivetrain: OEM transmission from the same manufacturer as car is required. . No independent rear suspension conversions to straight axle allowed. Aftermarket axles are allowed. Gear ratios may be changed. Aftermarket spools and upgraded positive traction differentials are allowed.
Street Equipment: OEM glass windows, headlights, brake lights, & full interior from both (2) front seats forward required. Aftermarket interior and seats are permitted. Stock dashboard is required. One headlight may be removed for air induction.
Exhaust: No required.
Tires: DOT tires allowed or 10.5" maximum slick permitted.
Fuel: Gasoline only permitted. Original stock gas tank must be used in car and must be functional, sumps are allowed.
Electronics: Two steps and trans brakes are allowed. Aftermarket ECU's and engine management systems allowed.
General: All general safety rules still apply.
Minimum Weights: 2250 lbs w/ driver
"OUTLAW STREET"
Body: aftermarket fiberglass or carbon fiber hoods,trunk lids,hatches,wings,ground effects,bumpers,and bolt on direct replacement front fenders are permitted ,stock doors are required, windshield and front door windows must be glass and door windows must be functional. no body panels may be removed during competition.
Chassis:full stock unibody chassis with stock floors are required.
Suspension:Stock suspension type cars only. direct replacement A-arms are allowed.aftermarket shocks and struts are allowed.wheelie bars are not permitted.fuctional shock absorber must be used at all corners of the car.
Engine: Four cylinder. motor swaps are allowed. motor must be from a honda or acura.
Power Adders: not permitted, naturally aspirated engines only. if any part of a nitrous system is found during tech you will automatically be disqualified.(ie..bottle,brackets,nitrous lines,or any solenoids)
Drivetrain
EM transmission from honda required. aftermarket axles allowed.gear ratios may be changed.aftemarket spools and upgraded positive traction differentials are allowed.Street Equipment: front windshield and front door glass must be OEM.headlights,brakelights must be fuctional. only one seat required.stock dash required.one headlight may be removed for air induction.
Exhaust:Not required
Tires:10.5" maximum slick permitted
Fuel:Gasoline only permitted. Fuel cells pemitted if they are at least 8 gallon cells.
Electronics:two steps allowed. aftermarket ECU's and engine management systems allowed.
Minimum Weight: none
[Modified by vtecdoc, 7:51 AM 9/25/2002]
[Modified by vtecdoc, 6:35 PM 9/25/2002]
A buddy and I will be bringing our cars out to the East Coast for this...
Sign me up for Outlaw Street...
What's the date of this?
Suprdave
[Modified by Suprdave, 2:37 AM 9/25/2002]
Sign me up for Outlaw Street...
What's the date of this?
Suprdave
[Modified by Suprdave, 2:37 AM 9/25/2002]
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we are lookin at the first or second week of march, i will let you know an exact date soon. thanks for the support.
hmm also a suggestion but maybe you already have it covered. Both classes should have cars that are registered AND insured.
hmm also a suggestion but maybe you already have it covered. Both classes should have cars that are registered AND insured.
Ok then we need to do it early in march because my emissions sticker is up then , and there isn't a chance in hell I'm going to pass again
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Youll do good in that Rob.
I'm going alittle more extreme on my street car (Fuel Cell, FAL Kit, etc...) so I'd prolly hafta go Outlaw Street. Those 2 things don't really matter that much though, but I get the point of the rules being that way.
Suprdave
I'm going alittle more extreme on my street car (Fuel Cell, FAL Kit, etc...) so I'd prolly hafta go Outlaw Street. Those 2 things don't really matter that much though, but I get the point of the rules being that way.
Suprdave
you sure you want to keep the gasoline only rule for the outlaw cars???
norris and others run on methanol, alcohol, etc......
i think it should be gas only, but i thought i'd point that out early.
norris and others run on methanol, alcohol, etc......
i think it should be gas only, but i thought i'd point that out early.
Norris, etc...aren't running a stock unibody. Car is definately a Back-half, with a CF Floorpan and the only thing really close to stock is the firewall and shock towers. Also, it's running a Wheelie-Bar.
Let's get this straight.
Super-Stock = Stock-Body, Not Much Gutting
Outlaw = Stock, Modded Body, Lotsa Gutting
Super-Stock is closer to what a street car really is. I'll be honest and tell ya that my car is only getting driven on nice-days and weekends when it's finished. Not gonna Lie. That's more for theft reasons though. Anyways, I'm definately up for a drive for this.
Suprdave
Let's get this straight.
Super-Stock = Stock-Body, Not Much Gutting
Outlaw = Stock, Modded Body, Lotsa Gutting
Super-Stock is closer to what a street car really is. I'll be honest and tell ya that my car is only getting driven on nice-days and weekends when it's finished. Not gonna Lie. That's more for theft reasons though. Anyways, I'm definately up for a drive for this.
Suprdave
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yes this event is for "Street" cars, norris and such are not street cars, they are full race cars. and yes all cars must show proof of registration and insurance. if you dont have it you dont run.
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we are tryin to get atco!! we will have the place and date posted soon.
why dont u add one more class for all out race cars
. with a couple of eastcoast pros showin up, u might be able to get some magazine coverage. i mean there is pleanty of time for one more class. also in the street classes, is it going to be an 8 car feild or 16?
as far as im concerned , even if there isnt a class for all out race cars, its still a great idea
. with a couple of eastcoast pros showin up, u might be able to get some magazine coverage. i mean there is pleanty of time for one more class. also in the street classes, is it going to be an 8 car feild or 16? as far as im concerned , even if there isnt a class for all out race cars, its still a great idea
yes this event is for "Street" cars, norris and such are not street cars, they are full race cars. and yes all cars must show proof of registration and insurance. if you dont have it you dont run.
don't sleep on norris and others.....i have seen them put their race motors in street cars. this meet your having will be very interesting to say the least.
.....and definatley make it a 16 car field. there should be plenty of cars there for that.
[Modified by jinxproof99, 1:48 PM 9/25/2002]
I would think something along the lines of an
8 Car Pro Field
8 Car Outlaw Field
16 Car Super Street Field
****, this could be big, guys...All-Motor is the most exciting to watch at any Import Event anyways. Get some Pro-Guys there, and it's money.
We need this at a good track (I've only experienced Rt.66 in Joliet). Atco or E-Town are supposed to be good. If we get some PRO's there, well get alot of spectators, which will cover cost of renting the track. I'm guessing that in the Pro Class, all the cars will be Sub ~10-11.5sec, Sub 12.5 in the Outlaw and Sub 12.9 in the SS Class. Should make for some serious fun, had by all.
Suprdave
[Modified by Suprdave, 1:17 PM 9/25/2002]
8 Car Pro Field
8 Car Outlaw Field
16 Car Super Street Field
****, this could be big, guys...All-Motor is the most exciting to watch at any Import Event anyways. Get some Pro-Guys there, and it's money.
We need this at a good track (I've only experienced Rt.66 in Joliet). Atco or E-Town are supposed to be good. If we get some PRO's there, well get alot of spectators, which will cover cost of renting the track. I'm guessing that in the Pro Class, all the cars will be Sub ~10-11.5sec, Sub 12.5 in the Outlaw and Sub 12.9 in the SS Class. Should make for some serious fun, had by all.
Suprdave
[Modified by Suprdave, 1:17 PM 9/25/2002]
I put my vote in for 2point6's 1990 Honda Accord 4dr. I beleive it to be the fastest All motor street car in the USA. This car was also featured in the April 2002 edition of Sport Compact Car. You can check it out there. "Haul in the Family"
I put my vote in for 2point6's 1990 Honda Accord 4dr. I beleive it to be the fastest All motor street car in the USA. This car was also featured in the April 2002 edition of Sport Compact Car. You can check it out there. "Haul in the Family"
i dont know how fast the accord it but i'd put 5 on it that it doesnt run 11.60s or faster
The rules look great! when i put X gallon fuel cell minimum i was also thinking 8 gallons.
The stock Honda doors with functional window is kind of iffy in the outlaw class. Being that 'outlaws' would probably be outlawish enough to drive with cut doors(safe as having sex with a heroin addicted ***)
personally id like to see the outlaw class have stock doors, with stock panels, with working windows.... and leave the imagination of lightening those doors to the drivers
and yes a pro class would be nice to keep pro street cars from putting their motors in street cars.
i see it as outlaw being 'street cars' not daily drivers. Because alot of street cars cant drive more than 40miles straight but daily drivers could.
good stuff VtecDoc
The rules look great! when i put X gallon fuel cell minimum i was also thinking 8 gallons.
The stock Honda doors with functional window is kind of iffy in the outlaw class. Being that 'outlaws' would probably be outlawish enough to drive with cut doors(safe as having sex with a heroin addicted ***)
personally id like to see the outlaw class have stock doors, with stock panels, with working windows.... and leave the imagination of lightening those doors to the drivers
and yes a pro class would be nice to keep pro street cars from putting their motors in street cars.
i see it as outlaw being 'street cars' not daily drivers. Because alot of street cars cant drive more than 40miles straight but daily drivers could.
good stuff VtecDoc



