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Old Jan 28, 2011 | 05:28 AM
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Hey guys, I recently was rear ended in my 94 GSR. Insurance is picking up the bill, so I'd like to switch to a 98 rear bumper while I'm at it. Just wondering what all is involved, I tried to google it but came up empty.

Obviously I need the rear bumper. Is the rear filler piece the same between years? Anything else I need? Is it a simple bolt on affair?

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Old Jan 28, 2011 | 06:08 AM
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http://acuraautomotiveparts.org/acur...s=&view=normal

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There are diff. part numbers so I am not sure how the swap will fit, I have heard of some problems with a gap between top of clip and bottom of trim, [filler piece] although that seems to be resolved with the use of spacers. 94
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Old Jan 28, 2011 | 08:59 AM
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Bump, I know Patrick and a few others have done this, I'd like to know what I need before I leave work today.
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Old Jan 28, 2011 | 09:36 AM
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2 door specs are a direct bolt on for the rear bumper.
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Old Jan 28, 2011 | 09:40 AM
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Default Re: Changing rear end to 98 spec

Originally Posted by mouab18c1
2 door specs are a direct bolt on for the rear bumper.
What about the filler piece?
Do i need any clips or can I reuse mine?
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Old Jan 28, 2011 | 10:19 AM
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The 98-01 bumper bolts right up.
The valence or "rear filler piece" should bolt right up as well and fit with the 98-01 bumpers as well.

As for the clips, you are better off just getting some new ones. I mean, theyre pretty cheap anyway, so might as well.

Make sure you align the bumper right to prevent sag, and you should be good from there.
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Old Jan 28, 2011 | 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by JdmTypeRdc2
The 98-01 bumper bolts right up.
The valence or "rear filler piece" should bolt right up as well and fit with the 98-01 bumpers as well.

As for the clips, you are better off just getting some new ones. I mean, theyre pretty cheap anyway, so might as well.

Make sure you align the bumper right to prevent sag, and you should be good from there.
Cool, that's what I wanted to hear, thanks man. Insurance is trying to lowball me so I might try and replace the bumper and valence myself, and then have it painted on their dime.
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Old Jan 28, 2011 | 12:06 PM
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Default Re: Changing rear end to 98 spec

Welllll since my announcement in this forum doesn't specifically mention the 98 rear conversion as grounds for lockage, I'll let this one slide

I just threw my 98 rear bumper on and called it a day. Used all the original hardware and all other pieces and it all lined up just fine. Only thing is you'll need 98+ mud guards if you run with those, which I do.

As for insurance, you have the right to insist on OEM parts be used for the repairs. That usually means you would get a used OEM bumper from a salvage yard, but that usually will have a better fit than the aftermarket crap anyway. And, the 94-97 and 98-01 rear bumpers are the exact same price brand new, so I would just get the body shop to do it, paid for by insurance, and just tell them you want 04715-ST7-A91ZZ (98+ rear bumper) instead of 04715-ST7-A90ZZ (94-97 rear).

I just posted my experiences with insurance and body shop after getting rear ended a few months ago in this thread: https://honda-tech.com/forums/acura-integra-type-r-8/dealing-insurance-rear-end-collison-2890112/

Got a brand new OEM 98+ rear bumper out of the deal! I already had the 98+ rear but I got it used off of a 2000 Integra. It had a spot of missing paint for nearly 6 years, but now it looks cherry!
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Old Jan 28, 2011 | 12:38 PM
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Well, here's what's actually going on.

I got rear ended, their insurance claimed 100% fault. I got a few estimates, but obviously mine were thousands higher than the "preferred" body shop of said guy's insurance. So they send out an adjuster. He estimates $718.

Now, from what I understand, I can just drop my car off at ANY body shop, and they'll fight the insurance company to get more money if needed. OR I can "cash out" and just take a check for $718.

My car has shitty paint though, the clear coat is peeling bad, so I figured now would be a great time to get it painted. I'm HOPING I can just replace the rear bumper and valance myself, and then spend the $718 towards paint. If I'm unable to fix it myself, I will have no option but to take it to a shop and then yes, I would have them use the 98+ bumper and I'll make sure it's the most expensive damn place I can find lol.

I think I can get a used, black, bumper and valance for $140 leaving $500+ for paint. (Yep, one day paint here I come) I just want to make sure I won't take my bumper off and then run into a bunch of needed parts.

Sounds like my plan (scam?) might work. Thanks for the input guys, I'll let ya know what happens.
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Old Jan 28, 2011 | 12:47 PM
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Lowballing is what insurance companies like to do, in hopes that you'll take the money and run. It costs them less in the long run. I say take it to a shop and have them fix it. Doesn't matter if their estimates are higher, they always are. Just take it to the shop (ask around about good ones) and let them deal with the insurance company. The insurance company will either pay the body shop directly, or they may cut you a check for their estimate. If the latter, just hang onto that check, let the adjuster come back out and look at the car to see what additional damage is found, and then find out what either the insurance company or the body shop wants you to do with that check.

The latter is how my deal was. I deposited the check, and then paid the body shop that exact amount. The rest (over $1K more) they got direct from the insurance company.

Since the other insurance is at fault, they also owe you a rental car.

Believe me, if you try to just take the money and do it yourself and get it painted later, you won't have nearly enough money to get it fixed right. If you have some money you can add, you could just tell the body shop that you want the whole car painted (or whatever) and see what the difference is above their repair estimate, and pay them for that part of the work.
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Old Jan 28, 2011 | 12:55 PM
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That's not a bad idea, I'm going to check and see if One Day Paint will do collision repair. Thanks for the advice man.
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Old Jan 31, 2011 | 10:31 AM
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Usually, it'd be easiest to go with a body shop the insurance company has approved of. Just drop the car off and let them handle everything! Be sure to make friends with the tech though so you can sway him into the 98+ parts you want.
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Old Jan 31, 2011 | 01:56 PM
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My cousin used his own 98 rear he had sitting around when he got rear ended once. The insurance deducted the price of a new one from his deductible.
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