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Old Jan 25, 2011 | 08:53 PM
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Default b18b motor blown, but the shifting is VERY hard

Hey guys, I need your input on something. First let me explain the details.

I bought a used motor from a guy, that claimed good standing on it. (yeah whatever) a week after installing it, I had people tell me that the motor was used at a track running 75 shots of nos (dry), been redlined with NO motor oil, and beaten.. Of course there was this car show and I decided to drive there (about an hour) and out of nowhere, I hear a slight wining noise.. then BAM, the car shuts off and starts smoking. I pulled over and tried to start it, but the starter broke off the housing on the first keyturn.. So i assume the motor is locked up.

After coming home finally, from a tow, I removed the oil pan, noticed HUGE chunks of piston and rods everwhere... (yeah it's definitly locked up)

I am gonna order another motor from tigerjap and get it in, but My main issue is..

Even though the car is sitting on jackstands right now, you can get in my car and try to shift through the gears, and when you do. the shifting is so hard, that you literally have to jam it in place. The shifting feels like you dipping a wooden spoon in a bucket full of liquid rubber.. VERY HARD TO MOVE THE SHIFTER..

what could be the problem? should i just replace the tranny and engine altogether? or is my transmission fine?

my car is a 01 integra, with Bolt on turbo kit, was running at 5 pounds.. with Stage 4 Competition Clutch and Steel Flywheel. I also notice some oily residue On the clutch and flywheel itself. I hope thats not engine oil, since the oil pan sits VERY close to the flywheel.

Sorry for the long story, and I think some of the details waasn't needed in this, but Any help is appreciated. Thanks!

-Dave
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Old Jan 25, 2011 | 10:48 PM
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If you can't get any movement out of the transmission while it is just sitting there then it's probably toasted as well.

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Old Jan 27, 2011 | 04:50 PM
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Does the trans have any fluid in it? Nothing would suprise me these days. As mouab18c1 said, if you are having a hard time shifting with the car just sitting, the trans is probably toast.

Shift linkage might be bent or something as well.
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Old Jan 28, 2011 | 07:21 AM
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Default Re: b18b motor blown, but the shifting is VERY hard

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Does the trans have any fluid in it? Nothing would suprise me these days. As mouab18c1 said, if you are having a hard time shifting with the car just sitting, the trans is probably toast.

Shift linkage might be bent or something as well.


yeah, ima check that as soon as I come back to the USA.

I still am stumpped as to whether the flywheel and clutch are gone too..

This is a brand new competition clutch stage 4..

And when i took the cover off, (in order to get to the rest of the bolt on the oilpan) I noticed a oily residue on the flywheel itself.. I'm worried the clutch is soaked with oil, just the oil gasket was Extremely severed and broken (and it was brand new) I'm scared engine oil done seeped in and ruined the clutch.
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Old Jan 28, 2011 | 07:40 AM
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Default Re: b18b motor blown, but the shifting is VERY hard

Pull the drain plug on the tranny and see what the fluid looks like if there is any. The plug is magnetic so you could also find something on it.
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Old Jan 28, 2011 | 07:42 AM
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Default Re: b18b motor blown, but the shifting is VERY hard

Originally Posted by lsturbo33
Pull the drain plug on the tranny and see what the fluid looks like if there is any. The plug is magnetic so you could also find something on it.
thats begginning to scare me. I wonder why the tranny would be going... even though the engine locked up. But i'll be sure to do that when i come back to the states.
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Old Jan 28, 2011 | 09:13 AM
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Default Re: b18b motor blown, but the shifting is VERY hard

The guy that sold you the motor needs his knee caps broken, help him out with that.
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Old Jan 28, 2011 | 04:31 PM
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It may be because the car is not running. Everytime you shift to another gear the trans gears will move a little. My 4 door was like that too. When ya try and go to another gear it will be tight as it lines back up. Are you pushing the clutch when doing so?
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Old Jan 28, 2011 | 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by 94 ls-r
It may be because the car is not running. Everytime you shift to another gear the trans gears will move a little. My 4 door was like that too. When ya try and go to another gear it will be tight as it lines back up. Are you pushing the clutch when doing so?
Yes I am pushing the clutch in. the funny thing is, was when the car was towed home, I waited a day to look at it, then when the next day came i was just messing with the shifter and it was just stiff. So it's probably the lines backed up.
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Old Jan 28, 2011 | 06:23 PM
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Default Re: b18b motor blown, but the shifting is VERY hard

With a normal working transmission you can shift it into any gear when the car is parked and off.

So with the car just sitting there and you not being able to shift into any gear leads to me think that there are internal damage.
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Old Jan 28, 2011 | 06:25 PM
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Default Re: b18b motor blown, but the shifting is VERY hard

If it was fine before I dont see any reason for it breaking when the motor blew.
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Old Jan 28, 2011 | 07:33 PM
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Default Re: b18b motor blown, but the shifting is VERY hard

Y a tranny is probly toast. It would still shift even with the motor off. You said the starter broke off so maybe something broke off and fell in to the tranny. Pull the trans off and inspect it
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Old Jan 28, 2011 | 08:21 PM
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Default Re: b18b motor blown, but the shifting is VERY hard

Originally Posted by tonythetuner®
You said the starter broke off so maybe something broke off and fell in to the tranny. Pull the trans off and inspect it
Can't believe it took this long for someone to mention this...



And if you just bought the engine from a shiesty guy why wouldnt u drive it a while to make sure its running good before you go throwing boost on it??
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Old Jan 28, 2011 | 08:25 PM
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Default Re: b18b motor blown, but the shifting is VERY hard

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Can't believe it took this long for someone to mention this...



And if you just bought the engine from a shiesty guy why wouldnt u drive it a while to make sure its running good before you go throwing boost on it??
it was driving great. The thing is,. I don't haul *** on the highway like most people do with turbo's... i aint the OMFG I GOTZ BOOST I GO AND HAZ ILLEGAL PLAYTIME... no.. I was simply on the road cruising at 55 mph, for about an hour. and then it just blew out..

And as far as the starter goes.. I doubt if anything fell inside my tranny would cause it to become super super hard to shift. It's not popping into gear, rather it is sliding into gear but very very very hardly.
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Old Jan 28, 2011 | 08:27 PM
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Default Re: b18b motor blown, but the shifting is VERY hard

But the fact that After it blew, everyone was telling me about the motor.. it wasn't prior to the install. but more after it blew.
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Old Jan 28, 2011 | 08:36 PM
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Default Re: b18b motor blown, but the shifting is VERY hard

No one sayed u was driving like an *******, just saying maybe u should drive a new engine around and give it a lil overhaul before just throwing boost on it and driving around.

And unless you had previous problems with the tranny the starter breaking is the only reasonable explaination, only other explaination is you was beating the **** out of it and locked everything up at a high rpm and broke a bunch of ****, but you allegedly don't participated in the "YAY BOOST ILLEGAL PLAYTIME" lol
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Old Jan 28, 2011 | 08:41 PM
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Default Re: b18b motor blown, but the shifting is VERY hard

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No one sayed u was driving like an *******, just saying maybe u should drive a new engine around and give it a lil overhaul before just throwing boost on it and driving around.

And unless you had previous problems with the tranny the starter breaking is the only reasonable explaination, only other explaination is you was beating the **** out of it and locked everything up at a high rpm and broke a bunch of ****, but you allegedly don't participated in the "YAY BOOST ILLEGAL PLAYTIME" lol
No i don't participate LOL!... i go by the saying of, it's better to loose a minute of your life than your life in a minute...

Plus I don't think it would be smart especially with a kid everwhere you go.

But i shall go home and check the tranny out.. if she be blown, ima just replace everything. But thanks for all the help guys!
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Old Jan 28, 2011 | 09:39 PM
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Default Re: b18b motor blown, but the shifting is VERY hard

Even if a piece of the starter broke off it wouldn't have entered the inside of a tranny. The starter is simply attached to the flywheel while bolted onto the transmission.

There is no way for anything to get inside a transmission in this scenario.
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Old Jan 28, 2011 | 09:52 PM
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Default Re: b18b motor blown, but the shifting is VERY hard

No but if the tranny case was crack or damaged with it fluid may have been lost.

Kinda a vague description on what exact happen with the starter. What else could have caused the trans to blow if there was no previous issues with it??

Unless the crank snapped and took out the tranny spline with it
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Old Jan 28, 2011 | 10:02 PM
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Default Re: b18b motor blown, but the shifting is VERY hard

Even without fluid a transmission is still able to shift from gear to gear. Or in other words should still have movement.

Only thing I can think of is the main shaft is probably jammed somehow or a piece of the starter got stuck on the clutch/flywheel and got jammed somewhere. Causing the main shaft on the transmission to lock up.
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Old Jan 28, 2011 | 10:30 PM
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Default Re: b18b motor blown, but the shifting is VERY hard

Originally Posted by mouab18c1
Even without fluid a transmission is still able to shift from gear to gear. Or in other words should still have movement.

Only thing I can think of is the main shaft is probably jammed somehow or a piece of the starter got stuck on the clutch/flywheel and got jammed somewhere. Causing the main shaft on the transmission to lock up.

thats sounds reasonable. i'll check it out
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