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Old Jan 24, 2011 | 10:34 PM
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so Ive been looking for a decent write up to set my eg hatch up for the strip. I ran the car all last year but just seem to be having traction issues to the 330ft mark The car is a eg hatch h22 powered, car makes 611hp and 442ft/lbs Im running the blox drag coils 12k 18k rates along with a avid traction bar and rear blox lca's. I also have skunk2 upper control arms up front set to zero. obx lsd and comp twin disk,For slicks i rock M&H Racemaster 25x8.7 13" for what ever reason the car just will not get to 10's it runs 11.2 all day with a consistent 1.7 60ft with the occasional high 1.6 60ft, ive tried to dial the bbg down to 14 psi in 1st and 2nd but just does not seem to help my cause still shocks the system any pointer you'll could lend or a link to a decent write up would be greatly appreciated thank you
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Old Jan 25, 2011 | 05:06 AM
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With 611whp and a 1.7 60' you should be deep in the 10's. Are you putting down all 600hp at the track. Because if your in an eg hatch somethings not adding up
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Old Jan 25, 2011 | 06:08 AM
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its after the launch when i shift in to second she breaks loose every time. i have to pedal it through second for the traction to come back, my bbg is 14psi 1st 18psi's 2nd 32 psi 3rd and 32 psi's 4th (611hp), it's like when the car lifts off the launch it slams down and transfers all the weight from the front to the rear so fast shifting into 2nd the car cant hook ,so i was wondering is this caused by a camber issue maybe being im zero'd out at a stance and causing a smaller contact patch when it raises back up or if maybe a stonger spring rate would be what a guy need in the back? prob doesnt help im 275lbs my self lol any input would be great thanks guys
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Old Jan 25, 2011 | 07:04 AM
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how much does the car weigh with you in it? any weight over the front? if not and you do put some weight up front, upgrade your axles.

our car had no problem with 615hp and 25's
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Old Jan 25, 2011 | 07:39 AM
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What size slicks are on the car? Lower the boost In 2nd.
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Old Jan 25, 2011 | 08:05 AM
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I do believe its about 2450lbs or so with me in it if i remember right its been two years since i scaled it, the slicks are mh 25x8.7 13 it just seems to transfer a little much 1st to 2nd after that she has no issues from 2nd to 3rd and 4th
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Old Jan 25, 2011 | 08:05 AM
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I agree lower the boost in 2nd. I run 15psi in 1st and 20 psi in 2nd and all out 3rd and 4th..
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Old Jan 25, 2011 | 08:08 AM
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im thinking maybe i should hit the gym and drop about 75lbs lol
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Old Jan 25, 2011 | 09:35 AM
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yeah go get an alignment for sure and play with the bbg. if it blows the tires off right away in 2nd lower it to 14psi at the begginning of 2nd and then ramp it up to whatever doesnt break loose too bad
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Old Jan 25, 2011 | 09:47 AM
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Well its a h22 and you should have plenty of weight upfront and with 600 plus you should be well into the 10s... I don't think you should turn the boost down especially with 25s I think you should stiffen up the back so also how long have you been on these slicks sounds to me like its time for a new set
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Old Jan 25, 2011 | 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by justnprsh07
Well its a h22 and you should have plenty of weight upfront and with 600 plus you should be well into the 10s... I don't think you should turn the boost down especially with 25s I think you should stiffen up the back so also how long have you been on these slicks sounds to me like its time for a new set
just last season prob ten races, they were new when i bought them, also ive heard people say the mickeys are the better rout then the mh's maybe ill get a set of them this year and try them out
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Old Jan 25, 2011 | 11:23 AM
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just last season prob ten races, they were new when i bought them, also ive heard people say the mickeys are the better rout then the mh's maybe ill get a set of them this year and try them out
we've had luck with bot the mh and mt. you just need to play around with your setup. what psi are you running in the slicks?
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Old Jan 25, 2011 | 12:24 PM
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7-9 psi
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Old Jan 25, 2011 | 05:17 PM
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Try launching in 2nd gear
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Old Jan 25, 2011 | 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by fray
Try launching in 2nd gear
why????
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Old Jan 25, 2011 | 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by fray
Try launching in 2nd gear
i dont have straight cuts lol
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Old Jan 26, 2011 | 11:36 AM
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we had our best 60's with 4-5 psi in the 25's. try lowering it one run

Originally Posted by wolve
what do you think your camber is going to be in 2nd gear if it's set to zero at rest???

in second gear the nose will lift quite a bit causing positive camber...and loss of traction

driving could play a big factor also, faster shifting and fts will prevent the car from nosing down


whatever you do, dont launch in 2nd....
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Old Jan 26, 2011 | 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by meane30
we had our best 60's with 4-5 psi in the 25's. try lowering it one run





whatever you do, dont launch in 2nd....
no i wont i need my trans to last plus i just rebuilt it so i aint chancing it
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Old Jan 26, 2011 | 01:00 PM
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prob going to adjust the camber in the front ill look at some pics and try to simulate the lift as close as possible and go from there thank you all for the advise
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Old Jan 26, 2011 | 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by hatchbone
prob going to adjust the camber in the front ill look at some pics and try to simulate the lift as close as possible and go from there thank you all for the advise
If you bring it by my work in the spring we can use the jacks on the alignment rack to simulate the lift of the front end and see where your camber is in real time and adjust accordingly
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Old Jan 26, 2011 | 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Krut
If you bring it by my work in the spring we can use the jacks on the alignment rack to simulate the lift of the front end and see where your camber is in real time and adjust accordingly
ill be there for sure just need to get it out and back together prob a month or so
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Old Jan 26, 2011 | 05:35 PM
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I've witnessed this car in person. Its a strange issue and makes me scratch my head in confusion. But a prime example that HP doesn't mean anything if you can't put it down
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Old Jan 26, 2011 | 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by boostedej1
I've witnessed this car in person. Its a strange issue and makes me scratch my head in confusion. But a prime example that HP doesn't mean anything if you can't put it down
should be a world of dif this year should have all the issues fixed i hope,and if it is you'll be the first one that knows mr superfly lol prob just the camber issues along with the weight of the back of the car combo is my best bet, hitting the gym prob wouldnt hurt either
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Old Jan 26, 2011 | 06:35 PM
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^^^^hey sup!!! Have you tried using 24.5x9x13? See you at the track.
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Old Jan 26, 2011 | 06:55 PM
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I don't believe so, He had some 24.5x8x13's before he bumped up to the 25's. I still have the mental image of you blowing by me in your hatch at BIR lol
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