Ok I got a 00 civic and want to lower it pretty low but not slam it. 1st question, there's two sets of coilovers/struts. One are tokio illumina struts with skunk works coilovers. Are these any good and worth 350? Q#2, how low will these go and still are reliable? I'd like a 2.25" drop from stock but don't know alot suspension.

The other set are tokio blues. Are these any good and worth 250? And how low are they recomended to be at?

And third question, he said he had them on a ej8, and also says they'll fit because 92/00 suspension are the same. Is this true?

And these are used btw, thanks everyone in advance.

 

tokico's are a much better shock compared to stock. they're made to sit lower then stock. as to how much lower, to each his own. i prefer kyb agx's. little more then 250 but the adjustable dampening is nice to have. sk2 coilovers are a good choice. just make sure u choose the spring rates that best fit ur needs. yes. 92-00 is all the same setup

 

Out of the two choices, I would pick the tokico illumina's with skunk2 sleeves. But instead of sleeves, eithier groundcontrol sleeves, or just some nice springs.

Also, remember to get an alignment after lowering to prevent immature tire wear.

 

ok, and how much are replacement springs?

 

Just get a Full coilover. F&F type 1s are WIN. If u wont though. Get Blues and GCs.

 

depends on what you get for springs. anywhere from 150-500.
btw 2.25 is borderline slammed.

 

Blues are terrible shocks.

What is your budget? Are you only looking at used parts?

 

Out of the choices you listed, Tokico Illumina with Skunk coilover sleeves will be the better choice, by far.

And 2.25" lower is nowhere near slammed. I was about 3" lower when I was on Koni/GC and even then I wasn't considered slammed, not by the "slammed thread" standards.

 

Opinion. Many including myself on 2 different vehicles have had a terrific experience with them..

 

It isnt just my opinon, it is many others. On a lowerd car BLUES suck, period.

They are a OEM replacement, noithing more. They are not meant to be lowerd on, or handle the increased spring rates of lowerd cars.

Picture a stock shock painted blue.

 

Blues work great with GC coilover sleeves. Ive had that setup on 2 EK coupes. I kno a good 8-10 people off the top of my head with that same setup. They love it. Im sure they work good with springs too. W/e not gonna argue but its all opinion..


Blues arent pro but theyre great shocks... PERIOD.

 

It is not an opinion. Tokico HP shocks, despite what their marketing department might claim, are not designed to handle the highly increased suspension velocities you get when you put adjustable coilovers with very short, very high-rate springs on them as compared to stock spring.

All but the mildest of lowering springs, and pretty much any adjustable coilover sleeve/spring will be murder on Tokico HP shocks in probably 1-2 years, depending on how much you drive. KYB GR-2 shocks are the same story, as it would be with OE shocks or any other OE-replacement shocks (Monroe, etc). I wouldn't expect any more than 20K miles on a set of those shocks with coilover sleeves installed on them, depending on how low you have them. Compare that to 200K miles on my Koni Sport shocks with various spring setups over the years. I guarantee a Tokico HP or KYB GR-2 shock will never come close to lasting that long.

Buddy of mine put Neuspeed Race springs on Tokico HP shocks back in the day, and the handling and ride quality were both horrible. Shortly thereafter he switched the shocks to Neuspeed Koni Sport SP3 shocks, and the handling was 100x better. Ride quality was also improved, although nowhere near "smooth" due to the race springs. But the Koni shocks did a much better job controlling the race springs than the Tokico HP shocks ever could.

 

Ask them what they're like after 50K miles... they'll be blown on their nuts if they haven't been replaced with something else already by then.

 

Had both cars less than a year but while i had em I liked the ride. One of my buddies has had that setup (GC + Blues) for close to 3 years in an EG hatch with about a 1.5" drop front and rear and hes still running.

 

<--- Been on Koni Sports for nearly a decade, still going strong

Koni Sport shocks will outlast pretty much every other OTS shock absorber on the market, probably 2-3 times over. IMHO they're some of the best money you can spend on your car since they actually end up being cheaper in the long run.

 

You sure are making Koni sports sound mad appealing though. Imma look into those for my coming Boosted LS EK Coupe. How much u pay for urs so I dont spend more than u did lol?

 

You are incorect. This is not a opinon, it is a fact, you will not win.

You can post your opinon all day, but you are wrong. They are terrible shocks.

My friend blew his blues quicker then my OEM shocks with a 100k+ on them. The shocks suck.

 

my budget is around 350. i would like new but getting a good set of coilovers are way more expensive than 350

 

You need to up your budget. You cannot get anything decent (shocks and springs/coilovers both) for $350.

 

^Ditto.

There is noithing wrong with buying one thing at a time. Hell, I have been peiceing my suspension togher sence I got the car, 3 years ago. I am still working on it.

Save up another 300, I grab some koni Sports (yellows), and a nice lowering spring, or for $799 you can get koni/gc.

Function&form will get you low and ride decently, however the Koni/gc, or koni and a lowering spring can do the same.

Also, yes 92-00 is basicly the same setup. The front will bolt on without a problem. If you are taking 96-00 shock to a 92-95 you will need to find a way to hold the brake lines on . If you are taking 92-95 rear shocks to 96-00 you will need to use a few washers on them. the EG Fork is a little wider. If you are taking 96-00 to 92-95 you will need to save a bit off the EG LCA's shock mount, OR you can press out the bushing and replace with one from a 96-00.

 

F&F type 1s are so win. I wanna look into those Koni sports Patrick was talking about though. Im done with 98civdx, he thinks its about "winning" LOLOLOLOL

 

sorry, i dont **** money

 

Haveing that attitude wont get you help, not trying to be a dick.

Your best bet is to just safe untill you can get the nice parts. Trust me, if i would have lissend to what the "smart" people said I wouldnt be replacing my suspension parts that I spent quite a bit of money on. Do it right or do it twice.

 

I would agree.....Tokico Blues are worthless. I made a mistake by getting a set for my old Del Sol. At first, the ride is not bad .... but after a few months, they seem to get weak and the ride was worst than stock.

 

You may not "****" money...but your going to **** it away if you buy Blues. Show some respect for the mods and people trying to help brother!!!

No one is flaming, they're all just trying to inform you of the best route to take.