im not very familiar with autocross/roadracing... i was just wondering if there is a link for the rule book for these types of racing... im just curious because im in the process of building a track car for the strip but at the same time i would want to make it legal for the track.... as far as weight (cutting back half interior or unecissary metal.. roll cage? how many points?), weight (least minimum weight requirements) and motor (displacement and mods?)... any info on what i can and cannot do would be greatly appreciated...

 

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http://www.scca.org

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Drag rules and road race rules are different regarding things such as cages. Road race door bars and drag door bars are different and not interchangeable. Also - MOST lower levels of amateur racing does not allow the cutting/removal of the interior sheet metal.

A dual purpose car will be a nightmare. You are better off building the car for road racing and then drag it occasionally. A drag car suspension will push like a ************ on a track and it won't be any fun.

 

for road racing you'll have to spend the $20 and get the GCR. Everyone suggests that you get that book first before you start. Come on out to Sear point raceway (Infineon) on Oct 5-6 and see some of the SCCA IT and Production cars. Look for a bunch of Hondas and you'll probably see me and tyson.

 

First, I would figure out if its Road Racing or Autocross that you want to do. I have seen dual duty Drag/Autocross cars but I have never seen a Road Race/Drag car. If I were you I would pick one venue and build the car to that. Also, I predict that after trying Autocrossing or Road Racing you wont want to drag race anymore.

SCCA San Francisco Region Use this link to learn more about local Autocross/Road Racing.




[Modified by Geratol, 11:36 AM 9/24/2002]

 

if youre building a car for drag racing, it probably wouldnt be legal for any type of racing on the track, maybe autox. so pretty much any cage will do for tooling around the track on track days, as there is no regulation for such. so any GCR reading would just be academic. and you really dont want a cage when autoxing, its just dead weight (blah the extra stiffening)

the rules are not online. just gotta get the book, its just how it is.


[Modified by Tyson, 11:44 AM 9/24/2002]

 

 

Couldn't have said it better Drew...

The only serious autocrosser I can think of that has a dual purpose car (or is building one) is Mark Daddio. I overheard him at the Rome Tour that he wants the car to be dual purpose and in the same trim be able atuocross and hold a 1.2 on the skid pad and still be able to pull sub-12's on the 1/4 mile... in a Neon of course. I'm guessing if anyone can do it, he can.

 

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thats what i hear all the time... i am really into drag right now... but as for autocross/ roadrace its something i want to do in the future... but for now im thinking of what to do and not to do to the car... so far the set up is a 2.0 itr motor with itbs... as for the chassis... it is a 98 itr fully stripped only the dash remains... im considering cutting metal from the back and the webbings... the glass is gone and lexan is about to be put in... i have a set of apexi 99 n1 coil overs... with energy suspension master set... i am more concerned with what i can or can't do with the body?... as for the suspension.. i can always swap the rear springs for the event i chose to run... i just don't want to go too much on lightening the car for drag while sacraficing the ability to use it for other types of racing.... any suggestions?....

 

The great thing about autocrossing is you can do it with how your car is now (granted you will be in some crazy modified class or OSP). Then you'll be hooked on that and you can continue to autocross while you build it for track competition. You should also read the rules on car prep (autocross and road racing) as you are very quickly reducing the number of classes you can choose from (may be too late).

 

then DONT START AUTOCROSSING.
see my sig?
yea my car is for sale
soon all my turbo parts will be for sale. im using the money to buy a hatchback project racecar and a tow vheicle.
stupid autocrossing ******* get me addicted.

now all i need to do is get a west coast honda challange started

 

Drew,

Watch your corn hole bud.

 

I once heard a wise man say that true racers build a car to a class specification and race it. My advice is to pick up a General Competition Rules book(whether SCCA or NASA East Coast Honda Challenge) and prepare the car ONLY as far as the rules allow.

If racing in the ECHC (which incorporates standing starts), the drag race lasts for thirty minutes or more on a REAL race track (ie: turns left and right). I don't think anyone has been disappointed yet.

13H4

 

Can I get a HELL YA!

I'm there.. I'm SOOOOO THERE!

 

its a slim chance tho.
i think there is support for it but i dont know if people will race IT and WCHC.


[Modified by KAMiN, 12:57 AM 9/25/2002]

 

so in what class (roadrace or autocross) can i run with lexan windows?...how bout lexan windows and back half chassis cut?... i remember that the skunk2 integra was made to run for roadrace/drag... but im not sure if they started cutting the interior up for roadracing or they do it when they decided to use the car for strictly drag? to cut or not to cut that is the question?

 

For autocrossing you are looking at one of the Modified Classes (not Street Modified).

Just out of curiosity have you ever autocrossed the car or taken it on a road course? or have you only drag raced it?

 

i only dragged the car... but now i have no choice but taking it off the streets... i want to try roadrace or autocross too...

 

I would sugest autocrossing the car to see how it handles. Odds are that the suspension will need some adjusting and that is far more important then Lexan windows or cutting metal off the car.

I always find it amusing how much people think you have to modify a car to road race it.

 

Isn't that the truth.