JDM front end- The truth about T bars

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Old Jan 15, 2011 | 12:57 PM
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Default JDM front end- The truth about T bars

I know over the years there has been a lot of confusion about what does and doesn't fit, and what your options are. I thought i'd take some time to go over some options for newbies and others unsure of what the story is.

This thread will cover 88-91 civic hatches and crx's. Just to touch on what is actually needed for a front end conversion, the bare minimum parts needed are....

- hood
- front bumper with mounting bracket in behind it
- signal lamps

So what about the T bar?

1) One budget way is to just reuse your original bar and shim it out forwards, and also grind out the hood latch opening and bolt mounting holes in a more forward position. Here are a couple of examples





2) Another budget way it to reuse your original T bar and bend it forward so it is in kind of a mild U shape (smile shape)



3) Here's where info gets tricky

There are TWO Styles or front T bar for facelifeted models. Many, not "all" EF8/9 front ends
have a T bar that fits exactly like our usdm part, with the exception of a little extra air vent off to the side. You would still have to mod the front a little bit to make it work. This is what a typical SiR t bar looks like



As some know, and others don't, the facelifted model hatchbacks and crx came in many many models EF6/7 and so on........cool thing is the the chassis is the same as our usdm cars, so it bolts right on with a front end conversion, no mods needed. You can see the mounting position of the hood latch is much more forward to meet up wi the longer hood





Here is a funny example of an EF8 t bar that came in, and it still has the hood latch mounted more forward like other non SiR models



here's a great pic side by side between the one you want, and the stock usdm style



Here's an old HT thread regarding these bars too, just no more pictures. One of the reasons i'm writing up a new one

https://honda-tech.com/forums/honda-crx-ef-civic-1988-1991-3/fact-fiction-%7E-radiator-support-aka-t-bar-frontend-conversion-56k-warning-1700836/


I will be coming back to add to and refine this thread a bit shortly, stay tuned, and feel free to ask any questions

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Old Jan 15, 2011 | 01:07 PM
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Some good info here!
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Old Jan 15, 2011 | 02:00 PM
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good info to have thanks deetz
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Old Jan 15, 2011 | 02:09 PM
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Nice job Deiter!
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Old Jan 15, 2011 | 02:59 PM
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good info
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Old Jan 15, 2011 | 03:50 PM
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good sheit.
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Old Jan 15, 2011 | 04:37 PM
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Nice ..another way I used my usdm tbar wit the jdm front end was just put spacers on the rear hood screws ant fits perfect cus it pullls the lag back from the front witout
touching the tbar!good thread
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Old Jan 15, 2011 | 04:40 PM
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^^ so you moved the hood back on the hinges? did you hollow out the holes? got a pic?
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Old Jan 15, 2011 | 08:55 PM
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nice hope to see in faqs
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Old Jan 16, 2011 | 01:09 AM
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Good info brother, this should nix any problems i may have with alignment.
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Old Jan 23, 2011 | 03:54 PM
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*update

Here is a good pic of the original of the t bar that came with my EF8 front end. Like mentioned earlier, aside from the extra little air vent, it's exactly the same fitment as the usdm model....this is why i sourced out the EF6 bar

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Old Jul 27, 2013 | 10:32 AM
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Hey Deetz good post but i have a question how did you bend the t bar foward?
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Old Jul 27, 2013 | 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by 9.3.S.I.L.U.D.E.
Hey Deetz good post but i have a question how did you bend the t bar foward?
That picture i posted earlier was somebody else's car, not sure how they bent it. I myself bought a genuine EF7 bar from oversea's from a 90 or 91 version crx. It was a direct bolt one.....my hood fit 100% perfect after that





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Old Jul 29, 2013 | 10:58 AM
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nice!!
thanks anyways bro
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