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Old Dec 30, 2010 | 03:06 PM
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hello Im new to this site and workin on hondas ..I've been in the scene for a while bt now Im trying to learn more about motors, differences and which is better... I have a white ej1 her name is donna and were currently puttin together a k motor but im just curious what is the difference between k 20 and k 24 ? please dont be a jerk like I said im new and just trying to learn more if you have anything else to add about other motors or cars feel free to let me know im very interested thanks a lot!
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Old Dec 30, 2010 | 03:08 PM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_K_engine
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Old Dec 30, 2010 | 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by silly rabbit
I have a white ej1 her name is donna-ashley
Lol that's funny.

I'm sorry i have nothing to contribute. First time I've seen somebody introduce their hondas name in awhile. GL with the build.
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Old Dec 30, 2010 | 06:26 PM
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k20a2 is probably the best k on this side of the pond. k24 blocks are good for Frankenstein builds. anything else feel free to ask
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Old Dec 30, 2010 | 07:42 PM
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k20a2 is probably the best k on this side of the pond. k24 blocks are good for Frankenstein builds. anything else feel free to ask
How do you figure?

The TSX K24 sports many advantages over a regular K20. I would pick the bigger more powerful and stronger engine any day of the week!
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Old Dec 30, 2010 | 08:52 PM
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I'm not an expert on k's by any means but I hear things about weak trannys alot? Is this more so on certain ones?
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Old Dec 30, 2010 | 09:26 PM
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K20- 2.0L
k24-2.4L

I would go for the k24, also a lot of times they can be found for less then a k20.
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Old Dec 31, 2010 | 04:21 AM
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Originally Posted by TwoFaced
I'm not an expert on k's by any means but I hear things about weak trannys alot? Is this more so on certain ones?
K-series trannys suck, especially the 6 speeds. They have a nasty tendency to start grinding and destroying the engagement teeth on the gears.
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Old Dec 31, 2010 | 04:40 AM
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K-series trannys suck, especially the 6 speeds. They have a nasty tendency to start grinding and destroying the engagement teeth on the gears.
That and Honda decided for some stupid reason to go back to cable transmissions after 10 years of delicious hydro transmissions.
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Old Dec 31, 2010 | 06:28 AM
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That and Honda decided for some stupid reason to go back to cable transmissions after 10 years of delicious hydro transmissions.
Umm no. They still use a hydraulic clutch. They're cable shifted but that's not the same thing. And the biggest reason for that was you can put the shifter wherever you want with shift cables, a solid linkage can really only go in one place. This isn't new though, Honda started going to cable shifted transmissions way back on Preludes and accords, think late '80s. Also the bar linkage, it goes back to like 1973 IIRC when the Civic first came out. All that said I prefer a solid linkage, the feel is much better, it's comparable to having the shifter mounted right in the transmission like most RWDs. Cables feel sloppy and can stretch and break ('06 - current non-Si Civics seem to be the worst as far as feel goes)
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Old Dec 31, 2010 | 06:37 AM
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Sorry, that's what I meant. I wasn't aware the clutches remained the same but I knew the linkage changed. I can't stand cable shifting transmissions.
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Old Dec 31, 2010 | 09:45 AM
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Umm no. They still use a hydraulic clutch. They're cable shifted but that's not the same thing. And the biggest reason for that was you can put the shifter wherever you want with shift cables, a solid linkage can really only go in one place. This isn't new though, Honda started going to cable shifted transmissions way back on Preludes and accords, think late '80s. Also the bar linkage, it goes back to like 1973 IIRC when the Civic first came out. All that said I prefer a solid linkage, the feel is much better, it's comparable to having the shifter mounted right in the transmission like most RWDs. Cables feel sloppy and can stretch and break ('06 - current non-Si Civics seem to be the worst as far as feel goes)
Thats all very true I hate the cable shifter on my H Swap it sucks..

As for K20 vs K24. K24 is the way to go that thing is a beast of an engine and puts out way more torque than the k20 and can be found for 500-1000 bucks.
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Old Jan 1, 2011 | 06:55 PM
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The K24 is a torque engine great for off the line and short distance. the K20 is more for long distance and high speed
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Old Jan 1, 2011 | 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by MERC6372
k20a2 is probably the best k on this side of the pond. k24 blocks are good for Frankenstein builds. anything else feel free to ask
thx man got a k20a2 right now
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Old Jan 1, 2011 | 07:20 PM
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thx guy appreciate the help
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Old Jan 1, 2011 | 08:12 PM
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nice! have fun with your swap
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Old Jan 2, 2011 | 12:33 AM
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Originally Posted by macson
that was actually pretty interesting lol i didnt even think about checking wikipedia
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Old Jan 2, 2011 | 12:34 AM
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nice! have fun with your swap
thanks im super excited
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Old Jan 2, 2011 | 09:25 AM
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It depends what your trying to do with the car that should decide what engine you want to use. Like stated above the k20 is better for high revving situations....if you want a torquier engine, like if your rallying i would go with the k24
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Old Jan 2, 2011 | 10:08 AM
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Im a torque guy I always go with the engine with more torque. with my H23 Vtec I walk on RSX type S all day unless they are built but even then im right on their tail. But! they will get me in the long run cuz my engine is just built for a quick sprint.
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Old Jan 2, 2011 | 01:14 PM
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Im a torque guy I always go with the engine with more torque. with my H23 Vtec I walk on RSX type S all day unless they are built but even then im right on their tail. But! they will get me in the long run cuz my engine is just built for a quick sprint.
What?

Are you saying your motor will give out on a multiple mile race? Or that they'll beat you to 200mph?
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Old Jan 2, 2011 | 02:29 PM
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oh god no lol im just saying I have alot longer stroke than the K20 does with my 95mm crank I can only rev to about 7.5 and some time 8k on track days in order to take atvantage of the low powerband I have a custom Euro R gear box matted to my H23 vtec. so my top speed is pretty low. and with the K20 it has a more desirable gear raio and 6 gears, top speed is not an issue. I could put and h23 tranz on if i wanted a higher top speed but I dont lol They would deff beat me to 200 mph .

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Old Jan 2, 2011 | 02:43 PM
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As you haven't done much research I don't suppose you have read much about the k20/24 frank builds?
If it sounds like something that would interest you, give me a pm and I'll link you to alias of info you can read up on
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Old Jan 2, 2011 | 02:52 PM
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I would love to build a K24! I have a K24 block but thats as far as Ive gone with it. becasue I decided to go H series cuz It was mor affordable and produced similar horse power. I like to go against the grain and be different. everyone is doing k swaps now. and it ticks them off when I beat their RSX with my H powered 4 door lol
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Old Jan 3, 2011 | 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by H22AFerio
I would love to build a K24! I have a K24 block but thats as far as Ive gone with it. becasue I decided to go H series cuz It was mor affordable and produced similar horse power. I like to go against the grain and be different. everyone is doing k swaps now. and it ticks them off when I beat their RSX with my H powered 4 door lol
Yeah I know what you mean about going against the grain, it seems like it has worked in your favour though. It's kinda of the same here in the uk with K builds as they are very expensive if you don't cut any corners. I know I still have lots of parts to order for mine, such a slow process!
Yeah I can imagine people arnt too happy to find out they have been beaten by a H!
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