All Motor / Naturally Aspirated No power adders

how much power? how fast?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Dec 22, 2010 | 07:57 PM
  #1  
enemy no1's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 271
Likes: 0
From: Cleveland, OH
Default how much power? how fast?

I just took on a new project I just bought and took over from a friend. The car needs work but thats what projects are all about right? I already have several parts I need on order. I'm curious to hear input from the more experienced all motor guys have to say about how much hp and trq this engine will make and how fast I can get this car to go on DR's. Heres the setup...

1997 Integra LS 2DR Hatch FULLY gutted
lowering springs and shocks (not sure what kind)

B18B1 block
ls crank
ls rods
itr pistons
ls B1 head milled .030
Crane Stage 4 cams
upgraded springs & retainers
3 angle valve job
ferrea exhaust valves
AEM cam gears
skunk 2 IM
65mm JG TB
SRI
stock injectors
DC sports fuel rail
B&M FPR
walbro 255 FP
ITR header
cat removed (straight pipe)
tanabe racing medallion cat-back exhaust
upgraded poly urethane motor mounts
chipped ecu from phearable.net with 8,500 rpm rev limit
a/c and power steering removed
LS tranny with open diff
upgraded clutch (not sure what kind)


I plan on getting it dyno tuned. I'm just curious to see what it should make and how fast it should be in the 1/4 mile.

I'm pretty excited about the new project especially because I've been out of the scene for a while. lots of input would be greatly appreciated. thanks
Reply
Old Dec 22, 2010 | 08:05 PM
  #2  
enemy no1's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 271
Likes: 0
From: Cleveland, OH
Default Re: how much power? how fast?

oh yeah I forgot to mention. estimated compression is at 12:1 Can anyone tell me if that is wrong? Also this car will be run on pump 93 octane. I dont have access to e85.
Reply
Old Dec 22, 2010 | 08:13 PM
  #3  
m_shake's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 2,428
Likes: 2
From: Cali
Default Re: how much power? how fast?

shot in the dark but based on reading around on here, maybe 170-180whp? might be a high estimate though...
Reply
Old Dec 22, 2010 | 08:14 PM
  #4  
m_shake's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 2,428
Likes: 2
From: Cali
Default Re: how much power? how fast?

btw, sounds like a fun setup, be sure to get it tuned
Reply
Old Dec 22, 2010 | 08:18 PM
  #5  
Madmood's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 782
Likes: 0
From: Western Washington
Default Re: how much power? how fast?

9.999
Reply
Old Dec 22, 2010 | 08:21 PM
  #6  
enemy no1's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 271
Likes: 0
From: Cleveland, OH
Default Re: how much power? how fast?

Originally Posted by Madmood
9.999
I wish lol
Reply
Old Dec 22, 2010 | 08:30 PM
  #7  
mouab18c1's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 8,071
Likes: 5
From: Washington
Default Re: how much power? how fast?

14.0000000000001
Reply
Old Dec 22, 2010 | 09:07 PM
  #8  
enemy no1's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 271
Likes: 0
From: Cleveland, OH
Default Re: how much power? how fast?

it seems not very many people have these crane cams. I think they were only sold for a short time which doesnt necessarily mean they suck because crane makes good **** from what I've heard. This makes me want to get it tuned on the the dyno even more to see how this setup performes compared to other similar setups with crowers and other brands.
Reply
Old Dec 22, 2010 | 09:09 PM
  #9  
jdmcivic2fast's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 509
Likes: 1
Default Re: how much power? how fast?

15.0000000000002
Reply
Old Dec 22, 2010 | 09:19 PM
  #10  
enemy no1's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 271
Likes: 0
From: Cleveland, OH
Default Re: how much power? how fast?

ok if you dont have any educated input to offer I'd appreciate it if you gtfo and make way for the gurus who have helpful knowledge to give thanks
Reply
Old Dec 22, 2010 | 09:21 PM
  #11  
Madmood's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 782
Likes: 0
From: Western Washington
Default Re: how much power? how fast?

Originally Posted by enemy no1
ok if you dont have any educated input to offer I'd appreciate it if you gtfo and make way for the gurus who have helpful knowledge to give thanks
You should honestly either do a search or spend a little time going through some of the threads because I can tell you that , I am sure you will find more than one thread that pertains to your questions..
Reply
Old Dec 22, 2010 | 09:24 PM
  #12  
m_shake's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 2,428
Likes: 2
From: Cali
Default Re: how much power? how fast?

Originally Posted by enemy no1
ok if you dont have any educated input to offer I'd appreciate it if you gtfo and make way for the gurus who have helpful knowledge to give thanks
totally not trying to be a dick, but when the gurus do see this they'll probably tell to search...or gtfo, depends who posts
Reply
Old Dec 22, 2010 | 09:27 PM
  #13  
jdmcivic2fast's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 509
Likes: 1
Default Re: how much power? how fast?

Originally Posted by enemy no1
ok if you dont have any educated input to offer I'd appreciate it if you gtfo and make way for the gurus who have helpful knowledge to give thanks
honestly no gurus is gonna come in here and tell u "how much hp u should make and how fast u are going to run" these type of post is non-sense to the all motor gurus, and shouldn't even be posted. You need to read the rules before u start posting.

"Guess my Horsepower Threads"
There is no way to accurately answer such a question and it doesn't promote good technical discussion. These are not allowed and will be locked immediately. If your looking for numbers similar to a setup your running search or check the ''Official All Motor Dyno thread''
Reply
Old Dec 22, 2010 | 09:28 PM
  #14  
m_shake's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 2,428
Likes: 2
From: Cali
Default Re: how much power? how fast?

yup that too...
Reply
Old Dec 22, 2010 | 09:54 PM
  #15  
93egSLEEPER's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 7,637
Likes: 4
From: Seahawks WA, USA
Default Re: how much power? how fast?

Originally Posted by jdmcivic2fast
honestly no gurus is gonna come in here and tell u "how much hp u should make and how fast u are going to run" these type of post is non-sense to the all motor gurus, and shouldn't even be posted. You need to read the rules before u start posting.

"Guess my Horsepower Threads"
There is no way to accurately answer such a question and it doesn't promote good technical discussion. These are not allowed and will be locked immediately. If your looking for numbers similar to a setup your running search or check the ''Official All Motor Dyno thread''
Get to the dyno and get down the track. Thats all your going to hear, and I agree with it. Internet HP/ET threads are always misleading and are never correct from car to car. The dyno you run on can be calibrated differently then the one down the street. Dyno numbers are ***** extentions, track times prove what your really packing.
Reply
Old Dec 23, 2010 | 07:02 AM
  #16  
enemy no1's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 271
Likes: 0
From: Cleveland, OH
Default Re: how much power? how fast?

Originally Posted by Madmood
You should honestly either do a search or spend a little time going through some of the threads because I can tell you that , I am sure you will find more than one thread that pertains to your questions..
I have searched and you're right I've come across threads regarding very similar setups. All of them range from 180whp-200+ whp. One of the differences here though is my cams. I cant seem to find anyone else on here with the same cams. I guess I will just have to get it dynoed to see what its capable of making. Would you or anyone else say this is atleast a 13 second car all motor providing it makes the expected 180-200 whp and its a fully gutted chassis?
Reply
Old Dec 23, 2010 | 07:05 AM
  #17  
TheShodan's Avatar
Moderator
20 Year Member
iTrader: (14)
 
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 24,555
Likes: 241
From: City of Wind, IL, USA
Default Re: how much power? how fast?

Originally Posted by enemy no1
Would you or anyone else say this is atleast a 13 second car all motor providing it makes the expected 180-200 whp and its a fully gutted chassis?
Nope. Get it down the track and get your real results. GL
Reply
Old Dec 23, 2010 | 08:06 AM
  #18  
Red_Army's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 2,039
Likes: 0
From: nowhere ville.
Default Re: how much power? how fast?

idk how good of a driver are you?

you could have a 3000hp civic and if you can't drive it'll still get 20's in the quarter.

no bench races.
Reply
Old Dec 23, 2010 | 08:43 AM
  #19  
enemy no1's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 271
Likes: 0
From: Cleveland, OH
Default Re: how much power? how fast?

alright thanks anyway
Reply
Old Dec 23, 2010 | 09:09 AM
  #20  
unusual71's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 1,734
Likes: 2
From: Canada
Default Re: how much power? how fast?

16.553468372

if only honda-tech was smart enough to stop posters from starting these kinds of threads.
Reply
Old Dec 23, 2010 | 09:18 AM
  #21  
enemy no1's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 271
Likes: 0
From: Cleveland, OH
Default Re: how much power? how fast?

nevermind then! mods close the thread
Reply
Old Dec 23, 2010 | 09:26 AM
  #22  
stephensimmons's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 16
Likes: 0
From: summerville, sc
Default Re: how much power? how fast?

I wouldnt mind seeing your project!
Reply
Old Dec 23, 2010 | 09:44 AM
  #23  
enemy no1's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 271
Likes: 0
From: Cleveland, OH
Default Re: how much power? how fast?

I just got the car last week so I havent had much time to work on it. Its pretty dirty right now.

Reply
Old Dec 23, 2010 | 09:54 AM
  #24  
stephensimmons's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 16
Likes: 0
From: summerville, sc
Default Re: how much power? how fast?

looks like a good prodject! I got an 89 accord that im putting b18 internals in the a20 so i know where your comming from! Your better off than me though being i gota make **** work in my car!
Reply
Old Dec 23, 2010 | 10:11 AM
  #25  
enemy no1's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 271
Likes: 0
From: Cleveland, OH
Default Re: how much power? how fast?

Thanks! lucky me the engine is already built. It should run but its missing a few things. My friend who I bought it from is in the Army and has been deployed twice in the last 4 years. The car got broken into. They tried to steal the car but were unsuccessful and I guess the theives took whatever they could with the minimal tools they had. They took the ecu, conv. harness, the intake, and a radiator cap. lol So I just gotta replace those things and hopefully the battery in it is still good. It should start right up.
Reply



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 08:23 PM.