All Motor / Naturally Aspirated No power adders

Quest For 12's: 100% OEM GSR Bottom

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Dec 21, 2010 | 06:18 PM
  #1  
Built2Race's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 17
Likes: 0
From: Virginia
Default Quest For 12's: 100% OEM GSR Bottom

Ok so heres the deal, we built this car for one of our buddies. Its a 2000 Integra GSR with 146k. We tuned the car with i/h/e and decided we wanted more out of it. The owner swapped heads with a friend and had us put it together and had our tuner work his magic.

Engine Management:
CROME pro street tuned
PLX wideband

Block:
100% OEM GSR block untouched with 146,000 miles

Head:
B16a head, Milled, Lightly ported intake side
JG dual valve springs and titanium retainers
Crower 63402 Cams, gears set to: +3 , -2
BLOX High Flow Header
2.5" straight pipe custom exhaust
Type R Intake Manifold Lightly ported and Portmatched
65mm throttle body
AEM CAI with a velocity stack out of the front bumper (will be upgrading to a 3")
2layer head gasket
310cc injectors

Transmission:
Stock GSR transmission
Exedy Stage1 Clutch

The owner took it to inline PRO in Springfield, VA to see what this build put out, the final #'s were 192whp/133tq. We were pretty surprised on what this thing put out for what it is. especially on a motor with 146k..

We took it out to the track on some Mickey Thompson ET Streets. The owner was launching it too high and only ran a 14.0 that day. He spun way too much out the hole. The owner is trying to break 12's on slicks with a little more weight removed in his DC2 Chassis.

Here is the dyno graph:


Last edited by Built2Race; Dec 21, 2010 at 06:47 PM.
Reply
Old Dec 21, 2010 | 07:04 PM
  #2  
jdmcivic2fast's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 509
Likes: 1
Default Re: Quest For 12's: 100% OEM GSR Bottom

how much does the car weigh?
Reply
Old Dec 21, 2010 | 07:13 PM
  #3  
Built2Race's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 17
Likes: 0
From: Virginia
Default Re: Quest For 12's: 100% OEM GSR Bottom

Originally Posted by jdmcivic2fast
how much does the car weigh?
about 2340 without the driver
Reply
Old Dec 21, 2010 | 07:18 PM
  #4  
jdmcivic2fast's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 509
Likes: 1
Default Re: Quest For 12's: 100% OEM GSR Bottom

its gonna be quite hard for that car to make a 12sec pass. but who knows
Reply
Old Dec 21, 2010 | 07:26 PM
  #5  
soloDC's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 306
Likes: 0
From: Wash D.C.
Default Re: Quest For 12's: 100% OEM GSR Bottom

Hey im the owner of the car and i gota say im really happy with what these guys did! tuning was good aswell but were retuning again soon with a few intake exhaust mods. Just trying to pull out as much power as we can on the current head/stock bottom end setup.
Reply
Old Dec 21, 2010 | 07:30 PM
  #6  
soloDC's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 306
Likes: 0
From: Wash D.C.
Default Re: Quest For 12's: 100% OEM GSR Bottom

Ultimately trying to get a 12 sec pass out of it on the stock bottom end in a 2000 GSR chassis
Reply
Old Dec 21, 2010 | 07:37 PM
  #7  
jdmcivic2fast's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 509
Likes: 1
Default Re: Quest For 12's: 100% OEM GSR Bottom

i can tell u this much, the power that the motor is making is more than enough to get u a 12 sec pass, but with the chasis u got is not a easy task. if u can get the weight down to 2300 with driver then it will be much easier for u.. this is from personal experience, i ran 12's with 180whp in a car that weigh 2270 with me in it.
Reply
Old Dec 21, 2010 | 08:04 PM
  #8  
sab1108's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 8
Likes: 0
Default Re: Quest For 12's: 100% OEM GSR Bottom

i was at the track when he ran it and he deff had the trap speed to hit 13 for sure...i think he can make 12 with a few more things done
Reply
Old Dec 21, 2010 | 08:07 PM
  #9  
88Hatchy's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 1,248
Likes: 0
From: Tampa, FL
Default Re: Quest For 12's: 100% OEM GSR Bottom

You need: gearing, a LSD, better suspension, and better tires. Launch at 7500 or higher.
Reply
Old Dec 21, 2010 | 08:08 PM
  #10  
soloDC's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 306
Likes: 0
From: Wash D.C.
Default Re: Quest For 12's: 100% OEM GSR Bottom

I have not "officially" weighed the car in yet.. i can just tell you how much weight i have taken out of it (weighed everything i took out) since the the car was bone stock. It does need to lose some weight tho still. i plan on getting skinnies next. then a sunroof plug. it will not be easy i agree, but possible i think well still keeping it streetable
Reply
Old Dec 21, 2010 | 08:14 PM
  #11  
soloDC's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 306
Likes: 0
From: Wash D.C.
Default Re: Quest For 12's: 100% OEM GSR Bottom

Mickey Thompson 22/8/15 are the way. suspension is somewhat setup for just drag but its not the best. also this car is not a daily. LSD would help but im not sure about, while gearing could help me out i managed a 14.0 with a 2.3 60' and 102mph trap on my only run i got..
Reply
Old Dec 21, 2010 | 08:19 PM
  #12  
jdmcivic2fast's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 509
Likes: 1
Default Re: Quest For 12's: 100% OEM GSR Bottom

Originally Posted by soloDC
I have not "officially" weighed the car in yet.. i can just tell you how much weight i have taken out of it (weighed everything i took out) since the the car was bone stock. It does need to lose some weight tho still. i plan on getting skinnies next. then a sunroof plug. it will not be easy i agree, but possible i think well still keeping it streetable
believe me if u can get the weight down, then u will get a 12sec time slip, thats the only way thats not going to cost u much.
Reply
Old Dec 21, 2010 | 08:21 PM
  #13  
jdmcivic2fast's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 509
Likes: 1
Default Re: Quest For 12's: 100% OEM GSR Bottom

Originally Posted by soloDC
Mickey Thompson 22/8/15 are the way. suspension is somewhat setup for just drag but its not the best. also this car is not a daily. LSD would help but im not sure about, while gearing could help me out i managed a 14.0 with a 2.3 60' and 102mph trap on my only run i got..
trust me u do not need a lsd tranny, i did it with a 98 gsr stock transmission.
Reply
Old Dec 21, 2010 | 08:31 PM
  #14  
soloDC's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 306
Likes: 0
From: Wash D.C.
Default Re: Quest For 12's: 100% OEM GSR Bottom

Yes this is somewhat a buget build to get into the 12s. So taking weight off is key. if u have any ideas for areas that are heavy on a DC2 leme know. i wana go a dfferent route than just throwing this engine into a hatch. bc i have looked around and there is not many stock block DC2s that have seen 12s and are still streetable.
Reply
Old Dec 21, 2010 | 08:46 PM
  #15  
soloDC's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 306
Likes: 0
From: Wash D.C.
Default Re: Quest For 12's: 100% OEM GSR Bottom

The only reason i question a LSD is bc i have seen many friends hit 1.8x 60' with an open diff on slicks. and gearing would help but 102mph shows me there is still some topend left for the back half of 1/4
Reply
Old Dec 21, 2010 | 09:14 PM
  #16  
thundernoodle's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 1,261
Likes: 0
From: St. Paul, MN
Default Re: Quest For 12's: 100% OEM GSR Bottom

2.3 is isnt good. A 102 trap is a little better. how are you shifting?
Reply
Old Dec 21, 2010 | 09:20 PM
  #17  
jdmcivic2fast's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 509
Likes: 1
Default Re: Quest For 12's: 100% OEM GSR Bottom

Originally Posted by soloDC
The only reason i question a LSD is bc i have seen many friends hit 1.8x 60' with an open diff on slicks. and gearing would help but 102mph shows me there is still some topend left for the back half of 1/4
u should be able to cut 1.80's 60ft with what u got, how high are u launching and what psi u got on the slicks?
Reply
Old Dec 21, 2010 | 09:41 PM
  #18  
soloDC's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 306
Likes: 0
From: Wash D.C.
Default Re: Quest For 12's: 100% OEM GSR Bottom

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

*Thundernoodle: you are right about the 60' not being good. But this is my point, it was not a good run for me at all and i spun all of first gear and had to lift throttle twice just to grab traction and yet the car still went 14 flat so i know theres a ton of room left to go faster. my mph at the 1/8 was only 79. yet my trap was 102mph... i can shift fine i think.
Reply
Old Dec 21, 2010 | 09:44 PM
  #19  
rev-speed's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 1,963
Likes: 0
From: fresno / merced, ca
Default Re: Quest For 12's: 100% OEM GSR Bottom

wow 191whp with a stock gsr block!
Reply
Old Dec 21, 2010 | 09:45 PM
  #20  
lunatics209's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 1,116
Likes: 0
From: stockton, ca, united states
Default Re: Quest For 12's: 100% OEM GSR Bottom

My LS-vtec put about the same numbers as this build. It made 192 whp and 132 tq. In my 2400 lb Civic SI hatch I was able to run a best of 13.6. Pretty sure if you get that 60 down to 1.7-1.8 and some weight off the car you'll see 12's.
Reply
Old Dec 21, 2010 | 09:45 PM
  #21  
rev-speed's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 1,963
Likes: 0
From: fresno / merced, ca
Default Re: Quest For 12's: 100% OEM GSR Bottom

to the op
the guys is trying to run 12s in a tank
does it matter what gas............
Reply
Old Dec 21, 2010 | 09:47 PM
  #22  
soloDC's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 306
Likes: 0
From: Wash D.C.
Default Re: Quest For 12's: 100% OEM GSR Bottom

*jdmcivic2fast: the season is over here in maryland and virginia so i have not got to launch on the slicks yet... advice welcomed. i was on MT ET Streets with 11psi in them at MIR the last day of test and tune. 40 degrees out and no sun.. launched at 7k that run and spun all of 1st. and then they closed for the season lol...
Reply
Old Dec 21, 2010 | 09:53 PM
  #23  
soloDC's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 306
Likes: 0
From: Wash D.C.
Default Re: Quest For 12's: 100% OEM GSR Bottom

*rev-speed: me and the OP are good buddies. are you talking about retuning on E85 possibly?
Reply
Old Dec 21, 2010 | 09:54 PM
  #24  
jdmcivic2fast's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 509
Likes: 1
Default Re: Quest For 12's: 100% OEM GSR Bottom

Originally Posted by soloDC
*jdmcivic2fast: the season is over here in maryland and virginia so i have not got to launch on the slicks yet... advice welcomed. i was on MT ET Streets with 11psi in them at MIR the last day of test and tune. 40 degrees out and no sun.. launched at 7k that run and spun all of 1st. and then they closed for the season lol...
next season try to get ahold of some 13x8x22 and loose some weight on the car, see what she'll do, the trap speed is good as far as i can tell.
Reply
Old Dec 21, 2010 | 09:55 PM
  #25  
jdmcivic2fast's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 509
Likes: 1
Default Re: Quest For 12's: 100% OEM GSR Bottom

Originally Posted by soloDC
*rev-speed: me and the OP are good buddies. are you talking about retuning on E85 possibly?
e85 wont change much
Reply



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 10:39 PM.