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Old Dec 17, 2010 | 07:57 PM
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Ok im rebuilding my setup from a daily driver to a weekend warrior, it will see mostly track time but i do like to drive it to the track and on the weekend. I want to make around 750-825hp on this setup.. I have to buy the turbo and manifold and a few other key parts so trying to decide on t3 vs t4 and regular vs divided/twin scroll..

I was looking at the 6765 HP billet or the 67 HPQ billet.. Below are the exhaust options i found and am thinking about for both turbos..Also if i had to choose it would be more power and better ets than streetability.. any help would be greatly appreciated from you experienced builders thx..

T3 .82 ar

T4 .96ar

T4 Divided 1.00ar or 1.15 ar


Current setup

GE 84x89 ls/vtec
9:7:1 cp pistons w upgraded pin
Manley turbo tuff rods
GE girdle w/arp main stud kit

B16 head PNP
Skunk2 pro1s
skunk2 tuner cam gears
supertech valves w/inconel exhaust valves
supertech turbo springs and titanium retainers
Arp head studs
76mm tb
edelbrock vic x intake manifold

Turbo manifold still deciding
turbo???
Tial 50mm BOV
Tial 44mm can add a second
full 3" charge pipes
30x12x4.5 intercooler air to air
1000cc id injectors
still deciding on fuel pumps
S300
MW pro t1 kit
B&R catch can setup
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Old Dec 17, 2010 | 08:41 PM
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For a street/strip car I would go with the 6262 or 6265. People have made 700+ on them and can but turned down enough for some street terror without being laggy. I know its not what your asking but I would say the 67 is a little too much turbo for what the smaller ones are making now days. A buddies s362 powered car rips it up on the street and the track.

Make sure you get manifold that has good wastegate placement/angle so you dont get bad creep. Also a big enough wastegate to be able to keep pressures down in low gears. A single tial 44mm should do you well.

At least do a Walbro in tank and a Bosch inline pump, you will run out a stock Walbro in tank at around 650-680 and thats a stretch. With the Bosch you can crank up fuel pressure and get a little more out of those injectors. The T1 Bosch kit is as easy as it gets. You could save some cash on skipping some of the parts like the ignition, though it is a badass setup and would be great for getting serious with racing. The power that you look to make can be had on stock dizzy. I'm not saying to ditch the kit, its just a option. No sense in chasing a "dream setup" when you can be out there racing sooner and add those things later. You may need that money for safety equipment to actually be able to run the car when you start getting it dialed in.

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Old Dec 17, 2010 | 09:09 PM
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For a street/strip car I would go with the 6262 or 6265. People have made 700+ on them and can but turned down enough for some street terror without being laggy. I know its not what your asking but I would say the 67 is a little too much turbo for what the smaller ones are making now days. A buddies s362 powered car rips it up on the street and the track.

Make sure you get manifold that has good wastegate placement/angle so you dont get bad creep. Also a big enough wastegate to be able to keep pressures down in low gears. A single tial 44mm should do you well.

At least do a Walbro in tank and a Bosch inline pump, you will run out a stock Walbro in tank at around 650-680 and thats a stretch. With the Bosch you can crank up fuel pressure and get a little more out of those injectors. The T1 Bosch kit is as easy as it gets. You could save some cash on skipping some of the parts like the ignition, though it is a badass setup and would be great for getting serious with racing. The power that you look to make can be had on stock dizzy. I'm not saying to ditch the kit, its just a option. No sense in chasing a "dream setup" when you can be out there racing sooner and add those things later. You may need that money for safety equipment to actually be able to run the car when you start getting it dialed in.
Well the turbo on my previous setup was a T3 PTE 6262SP .82ar and while i liked it i couldnt make 800hp on it with my setup..

Ya i was thinking about calling tony to see if the T1 inline kit would make 800hp on my id 1000s or if i should go ahead and get dual 044s.

The reason for the ignition setup is because i kept having issues with the stock ignition and msd6 ignition breaking up on high boost..
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Old Dec 18, 2010 | 10:37 AM
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inline kit with a walbro intank and 1000's will not make 800
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Old Dec 18, 2010 | 11:24 AM
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That fuel set up will do about 750. I tried a few housings on a 6765 last week. The open housings made more peak power and the divided came on a little quicker but not much. Divided twin gate manifold
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Old Dec 18, 2010 | 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by SPOOLINmatt
inline kit with a walbro intank and 1000's will not make 800
OK thanks, would the dual 044s and 1000s make 800hp or do i need the 2000id? Also this will be on race gas as i dont have access to e85 here..
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Old Dec 18, 2010 | 12:21 PM
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That fuel set up will do about 750. I tried a few housings on a 6765 last week. The open housings made more peak power and the divided came on a little quicker but not much. Divided twin gate manifold
Ok thanks on the fuel setup... So you reccommend the divided twin gate setup? What housing the 1.00 or the 1.15? thanks
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Old Dec 18, 2010 | 01:24 PM
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will 1000's make that much power or does he need to step it up a notch

id1000's will equate to 1500cc if im not mistaken
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Old Dec 18, 2010 | 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by josh green
For a street/strip car I would go with the 6262 or 6265. People have made 700+ on them and can but turned down enough for some street terror without being laggy. I know its not what your asking but I would say the 67 is a little too much turbo for what the smaller ones are making now days. A buddies s362 powered car rips it up on the street and the track.

Make sure you get manifold that has good wastegate placement/angle so you dont get bad creep. Also a big enough wastegate to be able to keep pressures down in low gears. A single tial 44mm should do you well.

At least do a Walbro in tank and a Bosch inline pump, you will run out a stock Walbro in tank at around 650-680 and thats a stretch. With the Bosch you can crank up fuel pressure and get a little more out of those injectors. The T1 Bosch kit is as easy as it gets. You could save some cash on skipping some of the parts like the ignition, though it is a badass setup and would be great for getting serious with racing. The power that you look to make can be had on stock dizzy. I'm not saying to ditch the kit, its just a option. No sense in chasing a "dream setup" when you can be out there racing sooner and add those things later. You may need that money for safety equipment to actually be able to run the car when you start getting it dialed in.
this is awesome to see where i will be using an s360, good info on the pumps too for when i need to buy my fuel setup
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Old Dec 18, 2010 | 04:53 PM
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You will need id2000s if you are wanting to make 800 on e85... check my sig
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Old Dec 18, 2010 | 05:16 PM
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thats what i was thinking also
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Old Dec 18, 2010 | 05:26 PM
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Precision 6765 w/ divided 1.32 backhousing.
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Old Dec 18, 2010 | 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by ek_b20_vtec
You will need id2000s if you are wanting to make 800 on e85... check my sig
I will be using race gas probably c16 i dont have e85 available here
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Old Dec 18, 2010 | 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by ek_b20_vtec
You will need id2000s if you are wanting to make 800 on e85... check my sig
Also i see your using the 6765 making about the power level im aiming for.. Can you please list your turbo and housing size.. If you dont mind maybe even you complete setup..Thanks
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Old Dec 19, 2010 | 02:18 PM
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Also i see your using the 6765 making about the power level im aiming for.. Can you please list your turbo and housing size.. If you dont mind maybe even you complete setup..Thanks
6765 non ball bearing t4 open housing .80 a/r
full race top mount with 4 in downpipe
85mm gsr block
cp 9.5:1 pistons
crower rods
RLZ GSR Ported Head
Skunk2 Pro 1 Cams
S300
Dual 044 sumped feeding ID2000 on E85
and of course Tony1 tuned

Thats pretty much the rundown of the setup.

The turbo will definitly make the power. And the power comes on really hard. I don't suggest going with a divided manifold with the 1.31 a/r.. i would stick with the 1.0 a/r if that is available.
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Old Dec 21, 2010 | 02:01 AM
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Default Re: What turbo 6765 vs 67 HPQ and best housing

Originally Posted by ek_b20_vtec
6765 non ball bearing t4 open housing .80 a/r
full race top mount with 4 in downpipe
85mm gsr block
cp 9.5:1 pistons
crower rods
RLZ GSR Ported Head
Skunk2 Pro 1 Cams
S300
Dual 044 sumped feeding ID2000 on E85
and of course Tony1 tuned

Thats pretty much the rundown of the setup.

The turbo will definitly make the power. And the power comes on really hard. I don't suggest going with a divided manifold with the 1.31 a/r.. i would stick with the 1.0 a/r if that is available.
is this with stock ignition setup as well?

TIA
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Old Dec 21, 2010 | 06:28 AM
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Clyde nope. I asked him before. Hes on pro10 ps92 combo.
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Old Dec 21, 2010 | 07:29 AM
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Clyde nope. I asked him before. Hes on pro10 ps92 combo.
I forgot about that. But yes he's correct. M&W Pro 10 box is what I have
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Old Dec 22, 2010 | 06:23 AM
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Default Re: What turbo 6765 vs 67 HPQ and best housing

how much power were u able to get out of your 62mm
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Old Dec 22, 2010 | 11:18 AM
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how much power were u able to get out of your 62mm
I never maxed it out only ran it to around 500hp on pump gas then decided to change the setup..
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