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Old Dec 2, 2010 | 07:36 PM
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is anyone running E-85 on their allmotor setup and if so what are the results?
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Old Dec 2, 2010 | 07:37 PM
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325hp/225 down tuned and choked
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Old Dec 2, 2010 | 07:40 PM
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Gained a solid 10whp over 93
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Old Dec 2, 2010 | 08:47 PM
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325hp/225 down tuned and choked
and what was the horse power gain from switching to e-85
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Old Dec 2, 2010 | 08:54 PM
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and what was the horse power gain from switching to e-85
dunno. Thats not what you asked.
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Old Dec 2, 2010 | 09:04 PM
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i know but i just want to know if it is worth switching to e-85 on an all motor set up
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Old Dec 3, 2010 | 05:39 AM
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Depends on ur setup
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Old Dec 3, 2010 | 08:14 AM
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ill be building a high compression b20 Vtec
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Old Dec 3, 2010 | 10:42 AM
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Nothing that tuning again won't gain. it may be a few cents less at the pump, but you'll need an even larger injector as the BTUs are half of what 93 octane is. You'll be at the pump twice as often (as many have who decided to go this route), so your savings at the pump will be a moot point.

Honestly, I don't think its worth it. And we have it all around here. Especially NA. you can gain 10 hp in other ways
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Old Dec 3, 2010 | 01:05 PM
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it wont be a daily driven vehicle i have another car for that
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Old Dec 3, 2010 | 08:04 PM
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yes and yes. plan your build around it and reap the benefits.
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I think E85 is an ideal choice. At only 2.50 a gallon, that's alot of savings. C16 is 15-16 bucks a gallon?

My high compression 85x89 B series on E85 made 263 whp 163 tq running 750cc injectors
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Old Dec 5, 2010 | 04:44 AM
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I'm not sure of any gains, because I ran e85 from the start.
On my gsr, I run itr pistons, 2layer head gasket and flat valves, netting me just under 12:1 compression.
Even with a blox cam rmf replica header and 60mm exhaust, all of which aren't the best for na horsepower, it put down 210 to the wheels on a dyno dynamics dyno on e85 with injector dynamics 1000s.
I'm very happy with the results, I've got maybe 4000 miles on the setup, and drive it hard. I change oil often though, and it doesn't seem to foul out plugs as quick.
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I have gone from 110 leaded gas to pump e85 with great results. I'm on my phone but ill post dyno sheets later to give you an idea about gains in an n/a setup...
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ok that sounds good
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Old Dec 12, 2010 | 07:54 PM
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Can you guys pitch in what fuel pumps/setups you guys running with e85. I heard that walbros arent e85 compatible.....that what i heard tough. Some one chime in. Ima be running a walbro 255 stock fuel lines, replace the oem filter with something e85 compatible to a aem fuel rail and id1000 cc on my 84.5x89 b20v at around 13.5CR.
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Can you guys pitch in what fuel pumps/setups you guys running with e85. I heard that walbros arent e85 compatible.....that what i heard tough. Some one chime in. Ima be running a walbro 255 stock fuel lines, replace the oem filter with something e85 compatible to a aem fuel rail and id1000 cc on my 84.5x89 b20v at around 13.5CR.
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Im using a bosch 044 pump, aeroquip feed and return lines, 10 micron aeromotive prepump filter and 100 micron postpump filter, id725
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I'm using Walbro 255 with everything else stock. Also runnning 750cc RC injectors.
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Old Dec 13, 2010 | 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by lunatics209
I'm using Walbro 255 with everything else stock. Also runnning 750cc RC injectors.
Pretty much what i plan on running, but with a xenocron Fuel pump.
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Originally Posted by lunatics209
I think E85 is an ideal choice. At only 2.50 a gallon, that's alot of savings. C16 is 15-16 bucks a gallon?

My high compression 85x89 B series on E85 made 263 whp 163 tq running 750cc injectors
Read my point on the BTUs. $2.50/gallond doesn't mean much if you're at the pump at least 2 times a week instead of once. And I compared that to 93-94octane, not C16. C16 would only be used on a setup made strictly for racing.

To each his own. I used it for a while, and found little worth in it. But it depends upon what you want to do with the car.
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Originally Posted by TheShodan
Read my point on the BTUs. $2.50/gallond doesn't mean much if you're at the pump at least 2 times a week instead of once. And I compared that to 93-94octane, not C16. C16 would only be used on a setup made strictly for racing.

To each his own. I used it for a while, and found little worth in it. But it depends upon what you want to do with the car.
Sounds like you have not used it enough or just pawned it off. I dropped 3mpg from pump to e85. It is worth the extra power for me.
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Originally Posted by lunatics209
I'm using Walbro 255 with everything else stock. Also runnning 750cc RC injectors.
OEM fuel filter to..?

Originally Posted by Turbogixxer
Sounds like you have not used it enough or just pawned it off. I dropped 3mpg from pump to e85. It is worth the extra power for me.
Whats youre setup.?
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Old Dec 13, 2010 | 05:38 PM
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I'm running a Walboro 255 and Precision 650s which are Bosch style.

I'm on a new oem fuel filter from Honda.
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Old Dec 13, 2010 | 06:36 PM
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I'm running a Walboro 255 and Precision 650s which are Bosch style.

I'm on a new oem fuel filter from Honda.
Isnt the oem filter not e85 compatible. noob question. If it is. Thats gonna save me money on a aftermarket fuel filter.
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Old Dec 13, 2010 | 06:57 PM
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i <3 E85. i made 310whp ALL MOTOR on my dyno dynamics dyno earlier this year. expecting more next year on E85 again of course.
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