very cool 8 minute paint job
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does any one know 3 what chemicals are used in this video??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAgT1...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAgT1...eature=related
This is one of the main things we do, check out the link in my signature. I haven't updated the site in a while with all of our most recent chrome and paint projects, but I will soon. In the gallery section, click on 'chrome'.
As a side note - Alsa and Cosmic Chrome are both complete garbage. When you see them in person they're both very underwhelmingly bland.
As a side note - Alsa and Cosmic Chrome are both complete garbage. When you see them in person they're both very underwhelmingly bland.
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Who the fack changed my title?!
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From: Houston, TX, USA
This is one of the main things we do, check out the link in my signature. I haven't updated the site in a while with all of our most recent chrome and paint projects, but I will soon. In the gallery section, click on 'chrome'.
As a side note - Alsa and Cosmic Chrome are both complete garbage. When you see them in person they're both very underwhelmingly bland.
As a side note - Alsa and Cosmic Chrome are both complete garbage. When you see them in person they're both very underwhelmingly bland.
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In addition to the system, you must have a powerful, high capacity air compressor that can keep up with the air consumption. Clean and dry air is also incredibly important. Our dryer system takes up a good 6'x6' area on the wall outside of the booth and it was close to $5k. It's what we needed for the waterborne conversion anyway, so we killed two birds with one stone. Also, as mentioned, you need a booth. Just having the cabinet alone is not enough to efficiently spray the chrome. Even if you manage it, you still have to spray all of the primers and basecoat and then the special clear that bites into the chrome. Getting dirt in the basecoat is a huge problem even in a booth, and you certainly couldn't make it look remotely decent without a booth. It's worse than a flat clear paint job as far as permanency.. once the dirt is in there, it's there to stay. There's no buffing except for after the clear.
Training is in Florida and you won't get away with attending only one 'beginner' class. We just went back down for an advanced class a few weeks ago because of some issues we were having. While out at SEMA this year we found out that there are also other SC customers from all over the country who were experiencing the same problems. They all went back for the advanced class as well.
So, basically no you can't just buy the chemicals and do it yourself. If you want to make it a business you can definitely start it up yourself though. Even though it's not really a paint system, just a chemical coating system, it's much easier if you're already established as a paint shop.
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Who the fack changed my title?!
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We use the SpectaChrome system. I've seen results from all other companies and honestly, they all suck. That's why we went with the SC. Yes, you can buy it and you don't have to meet any kind of qualifications or anything, but it requires lots of training and costs a shitload of money. Our SC system, like the one shown in the video (the cabinet in the background and the tanks, guns, etc.) costs just over $15k by the time you actually have it in your posession with enough materials to get started.
In addition to the system, you must have a powerful, high capacity air compressor that can keep up with the air consumption. Clean and dry air is also incredibly important. Our dryer system takes up a good 6'x6' area on the wall outside of the booth and it was close to $5k. It's what we needed for the waterborne conversion anyway, so we killed two birds with one stone. Also, as mentioned, you need a booth. Just having the cabinet alone is not enough to efficiently spray the chrome. Even if you manage it, you still have to spray all of the primers and basecoat and then the special clear that bites into the chrome. Getting dirt in the basecoat is a huge problem even in a booth, and you certainly couldn't make it look remotely decent without a booth. It's worse than a flat clear paint job as far as permanency.. once the dirt is in there, it's there to stay. There's no buffing except for after the clear.
Training is in Florida and you won't get away with attending only one 'beginner' class. We just went back down for an advanced class a few weeks ago because of some issues we were having. While out at SEMA this year we found out that there are also other SC customers from all over the country who were experiencing the same problems. They all went back for the advanced class as well.
So, basically no you can't just buy the chemicals and do it yourself. If you want to make it a business you can definitely start it up yourself though. Even though it's not really a paint system, just a chemical coating system, it's much easier if you're already established as a paint shop.
In addition to the system, you must have a powerful, high capacity air compressor that can keep up with the air consumption. Clean and dry air is also incredibly important. Our dryer system takes up a good 6'x6' area on the wall outside of the booth and it was close to $5k. It's what we needed for the waterborne conversion anyway, so we killed two birds with one stone. Also, as mentioned, you need a booth. Just having the cabinet alone is not enough to efficiently spray the chrome. Even if you manage it, you still have to spray all of the primers and basecoat and then the special clear that bites into the chrome. Getting dirt in the basecoat is a huge problem even in a booth, and you certainly couldn't make it look remotely decent without a booth. It's worse than a flat clear paint job as far as permanency.. once the dirt is in there, it's there to stay. There's no buffing except for after the clear.
Training is in Florida and you won't get away with attending only one 'beginner' class. We just went back down for an advanced class a few weeks ago because of some issues we were having. While out at SEMA this year we found out that there are also other SC customers from all over the country who were experiencing the same problems. They all went back for the advanced class as well.
So, basically no you can't just buy the chemicals and do it yourself. If you want to make it a business you can definitely start it up yourself though. Even though it's not really a paint system, just a chemical coating system, it's much easier if you're already established as a paint shop.
It's comparable in price to standard chrome plating. For things that can be plated easily, we charge a bit less. We just can't compete with chrome plating companies when we're talking about standard metallic things. Non-metallic items we charge more because of the fact that it's simply not possible to chrome plate plastic, ceramic, wood, etc., but it's still relatively comparable to chrome plating pricing. Colored/candy chrome is more expensive though, obviously.
It's really cool when you lay a candy over it. Nothing else like it in my opinion. I looked at the spray on chrome system several years ago and almost bought but just couldn't bring my self to buy it. The thing that got me wasn't the initial equipment cost it was the expensive chemicals you go through like crazy. I had contacted a guy that had one and he was disappointed. Probably got all that worked out now though.
I've done a couple of bikes with Mirra chrome and I thought they came out great. Looks like real chrome but it sure does take a lot more time than the spray on chrome approach. If you are doing a lot of it I can see how the machine is the way to go. Some folks are using to refinish vintage mirrors also. It is the same process as I understand it except you spray on the back of glass instead of metal.
I've done a couple of bikes with Mirra chrome and I thought they came out great. Looks like real chrome but it sure does take a lot more time than the spray on chrome approach. If you are doing a lot of it I can see how the machine is the way to go. Some folks are using to refinish vintage mirrors also. It is the same process as I understand it except you spray on the back of glass instead of metal.
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