i ve ben reading up on the break upgrades here and there, but theres just so much **** and its badly written, its hard to figure out what parts work on what car etc.

maybe someone can help me out?

i have a 95LS

and i can get the 91 legend single piston calipers and pretty much the whole spindle with disk caliper and knuckle. 17CL15VN on the caliper, i havent looked at the bracket.

i also looked at the rear disks on legend, they are big an would look nice but are they even worth upgrading? besides more even brake size will there be any difference in braking from rear caliper upgrade?

the legend is also a 5 lug.



is it possible to press the hubs on integra?

 

There is actually a brakes forum here on HT, so you might want to try there.

https://honda-tech.com/forums/brakes-128/

 

it seems to be pretty dead.
theres only 12 threads in the whole section.

and this is integra related not civic or a general brakes question so i thought id have better luck here( if any integra people even hang out here)

 

first....why are you upgrading your brakes??
second...better tires is the first brake upgrade that you can do
third...better pads
fourth...stainless steel lines

 

ok man im not asking about tires. please read the topic. if i wanted tires id ask for them.

im upgrading so i have better control when breaking. and also better look. the stock ones look pretty damn small with 17" wheels.

and besides. tires are not a "break upgrade"


im asking a specific question please if you cant help me then dont type.

 

http://www.fastbrakes.com

I use their 11" rear disc upgrade. The kit uses the original rear caliper with a larger diameter rotor and a caliper relocation bracket for increased leverage on the rotor. No changes to clamping area.

 

nice but i like to keep it OEM (a much as i can) too much attention is not good for DD integras.

 

I wouldnt be concerned about control when your "breaking"...A "breaking" upgrade is not something a driver wants...at that point, its time to fix rather than control.

 

That is pretty much OEM. Bigger rotors, better calipers, and no need to switch to 5 lug.
The fastbrakes kit is the best bang for the buck when it comes to "breaking" lol just teasing.

Brembo blank zinc coated rotors, Hawk HPS pads, and Stainless steel brake lines is a very good brake package. The lines and pads will make a world of difference.

 

truth.

and why anyone would want to upgrade their rear brakes on a fwd car is beyond me. especially when you're still only utilizing the original size pads and calipers. all you're actually doing is increasing rotational mass and unsprung weight

 

How do you figure tires are not a brake (yes, it's spelled brake) upgrade? It makes no difference how big your brakes are if you've got shitty tires, you're not gonna stop. The quality of your brakes is directly proportional to the traction level of your tires. If your brakes exceed the traction your tires can grip the road, you're defeating the purpose.

You've gotten very specific answers, but you're not reading them.

Oh, and there's a key you need to use, it's called "shift".

 

**** off mr dictionary
i misspelled a word damn...
my tires are good, but brakes are not. so while im needing new pads and rotors i figured it would be a great time to upgrade to some bigger rotors.

and why people upgrade brakes then if its useless?
i should just slap some tiny *** civic brakes on then and be done with it, if it makes no difference right?


btw the link took me to the wilwood brakes thats why i said OEM, i thought thats what he was suggesting.


CAN SOMEONE JUST ANSWER MY DAMN QUESTION PLEASE? without your personal opinion. again, if i wanted your opinion id ask for it.


i asked a simple question, and so far i got bunch of useless horseshit with only one or two related posts.i dont care if my tires are also brakes, im asking about brake calipers disks and hubs not tires...

maybe thats why i couldnt find any info because every thread turns into a BS discussion with bunch of people throwing in their useless opinions even though nobody asked for them.


yes everyone could "just buy a type-r5 lug" but not everyone can afford it. i have the whole suspension from 91 legend and im asking if i can use it or not. very simple question right?

 

I already answered your question, and you tell me to f*ck off, sooooo sorry buddy, no more help from me...At this point, I dont care if you "break" hahahaha...

And btw, im not a dictionary. Its just retarded when people can't learn the difference between "their" and "there", "hear" and here" and in your case "brake" and "break".

I already gave you my advice, and its probably the best thing you can do. Take it or leave it. I think you just want to hear us say "get a BBK for the rear" because thats what it seems you are implying. Good luck with it.

 

It looks like no one that is here has done 91 Legend brakes/spindles to a 95 Integra swap, so instead of getting pissed off and telling people to **** off, why not just try it, you say you have the 91 Legend parts, spend a weekend seeing if you can make them fit, take pics and do a writeup post it on the brake form so it will be there for the next guy.

The reason you can't find anything is either because it has not been, [can not be] done or the guys doing it are not posting it, it would be nice if all we had to do was search for something and always find it, but someone would have to have done it and then posted it, somebody has to be first, maybe that's you. 94

BTW, my opinion is, anything is possible, the impossible only takes longer and costs more money.

 

raverx3m, you aren't going to get much information here because most of the hard parkers are in the cosmetic forum.

There is no reason to "upgrade" the brakes on a street driven Integra. It is useless.

You actually could use "tiny *** civic brakes" if you wanted. The result would be simply a reduction in heat soak capability, but they would be perfectly adequate for daily / street use.

On any street tire, the stock Integra brakes are much more than sufficient. Flush the fluid, as it is probably in need if you haven't done it recently. If you want better brake feel, go with stainless lines. If you need better heat resistance, use a better fluid and upgrade the pads.

My GSR hasn't had any brake issues as a track car with nothing more than a fluid and pad change (Hawk HP+) while on street tires. R compounds might change that though.

Good luck with the Legend swap if you decide to go through it. Just understand that the increase in rotational mass will actually reduce acceleration and braking, while providing increased heat heat resistance.

 

i haven't done the legend calipers, so i can't help there. but here's what i have just to throw out ideas:
-96 spec jdm type r knuckles/trailing arms
-93 prelude sr-v front calipers/rotors 11.1" (same size as 98+type r)
-russel stainless lines
-hawk hp+ pads

aside from the lines and pads, it's all oem and was actually really, really cheap.

 

ok i kinda joking about the dictionary thats why there was a smiley face next to it.

so the caliper bracket is what different on all those cars right?

as far as mistakes go, the IE doesnt have spell check and some people type fast. i go through my post but sometimes im busy or only have a second to type it so i miss things.
and im sure you re not a perfect speller yourself either to give you any right to correct others mistakes.


the reason i was asking because i was trying to see if instead of redrilling rotors i could swap the 4x114 hubs since the wheels i have are universal.

and its gonna be my gsr build in there soon.

 

i had a problem with brake fade with stock gsr brakes and sticky street tires. the ITR upgrade is really worth it. pedal feel is also increased. what you need are 23t calipers. they come on the ITR, 2000 accord v6, early legend and early nsx. you then use mid 90s prelude vtec {not si} but vtec rotors, redirll them to 4x100, mount and have 1/8th or .120 shaved off the bracket of your 23t caliper. it will then all mount right up. if you use a good street pad like the axxis ultimate or hawk hp+ you shouldn't have any fade issues on street tires or even r comps in autocross. unsure how much of a push they would need on lap days. ht10 pads would likely be needed for any type of extended use. anyway, that's how you do it and that's why you get. personally i think the gsr brakes should have stayed on the LS, they just can't bleed heat very fast. too little heatsink

i should mention the whole reason i went this way was cost. the wilwood dynalite package for $575 is better but also 575. i put togeather the above package complete for about $250

 

^^good budget set up right there.
you can also use prelude sr-v calipers instead of type r's. probably a bit cheaper

 

if it's a 23t caliper, all are the same. just price shop which make and model your retailer will sell the cheapest. the most expensive are the actual nsx calipers with nsx cast into them.

 

dang, didn't Fastbrakes used to sell an OE-type setup that basically got you to ITR-spec brakes without having to go 5-lug and all that? I don't see that anymore.

OP you really need to check the Brakes forum. The threads you see are only those from the past 2 weeks. Scroll to the bottom and change the date range and you'll see plenty more.

 

yup. i actually had this set up once before. corrado g60 rotors w/itr calipers.
was just a bracket that adjusts the placement of the caliper to work with the rotor. i certainly had no complaints

 

oh wtf i thought i had it set up to show all threads i shall search the brakes section then

 

it was 23t calipers and prelude vtec rotors redrilled. it's a great oem upgrade. they just wanted 2x what it would cost to do it yourself. the machine shop needs to do the calipers and you can drill your own rotors

 

so theres no rotors on the market that would fit without drilling? even from a different make model?(dare i say domestic cars?)