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Old Nov 4, 2010 | 03:02 PM
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so i have a gsr head that i bought about a year ago for an ls vtec build. but that idea went out the door when my friend rolled my car. since then i picked up a 2000 si and i was thinking of putting the gsr head on the b16. and im wondering if its worth it?

also thinking of getting the head ported and polished but not sure what i need to tell the guy at the machine shop. it will be used for daily driving. any ideas? the head has itr valves, supertech springs oem retainers. and already a mild port job. intake side is port matched for an aebs intake manifold which i have. and if i do this swap i will be putting the ctr cams that are in my b16 head in the gsr.
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Old Nov 4, 2010 | 03:59 PM
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Don't do it!!!
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Old Nov 4, 2010 | 04:16 PM
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I hope you have an intake manifold if you're planning on doing this.
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Old Nov 4, 2010 | 05:36 PM
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I hope you have an intake manifold if you're planning on doing this.
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intake side is port matched for an aebs intake manifold which i have..
fail..
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Old Nov 5, 2010 | 01:00 PM
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Ahh....sh*t...I misread that. I was thinking the B16 head was portmatched.
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Old Nov 5, 2010 | 01:50 PM
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bump. opinions please.
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Old Nov 5, 2010 | 01:59 PM
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sure why not ?

It should net you a small bump in compression , and youll have a better manifold and valvetrain.

As far a porting it will not be an issue daily driving the car , how in depth you want to get with it is up to you.....serious porting can get expensive though.
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Old Nov 5, 2010 | 02:03 PM
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The GSR head is a good head for the street but you'll need a manifold for it. Don't let anyone "port and polish" that head who doesn't do it professionally. I'd be willing to bet your machine shop doesn't typically do this for import heads. Your build doesn't require it either. You'll need bigger cams and a tuning system, good air intake and exhaust first before you're even close to considering having the head done. What kind of mileage is on that head since it last had a valve job?
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Old Nov 5, 2010 | 06:34 PM
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you should read his whole post lol. I say do it if you have the parts I just drove a hatch with a b16b in it and im really surprised how quick it is. makes my old b16 look like a sohc.
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Old Nov 5, 2010 | 10:47 PM
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The GSR head is a good head for the street but you'll need a manifold for it. Don't let anyone "port and polish" that head who doesn't do it professionally. I'd be willing to bet your machine shop doesn't typically do this for import heads. Your build doesn't require it either. You'll need bigger cams and a tuning system, good air intake and exhaust first before you're even close to considering having the head done. What kind of mileage is on that head since it last had a valve job?
i bought it from a buddy of mine who rebuilt the head. it only has 5k on since the rebuild. his stuff is legit. he goes by turbohf on here and also works at honda. i have an aebs intake manifold for the gsr head that is already port matched for the head. im also currently running a dc 4-1 header and 2 1/2 inch exhaust from the cat back with an itr knock off muffler.
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Old Nov 5, 2010 | 10:50 PM
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sure why not ?

It should net you a small bump in compression , and youll have a better manifold and valvetrain.

As far a porting it will not be an issue daily driving the car , how in depth you want to get with it is up to you.....serious porting can get expensive though.
guy at machine shop said it cost anywhere between 500 and 2000 depending on what i wanted. car will only be used for street/strip use. need to know what i should have done to make the best power gains. besides losing the stock bottom end.
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Old Nov 5, 2010 | 11:06 PM
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I would do it. You want something mild for daily driving and the gsr head you are considering has good upgrades(itr valves/springs and retainers). Also, putting in the ctr cams while give you some added power to the head and I think you would be happy with the overall power gains compared to your current b16. The port and polish is obviously up to you. If you have future plans with the block and its internals it may be a good idea but it should also be fine the way it is now also. Anyway, just my two cents, hope this helps.
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Old Nov 5, 2010 | 11:13 PM
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I 'd look into purchasing some aftermarket valve springs and titanium retainers also a set of sk2 stg 3 cams. Also as for head porting send the head to someone who is reputable with porting honda heads. The one thing about honda heads is that you need to know what your doing when porting them cause they aren't like domestic v8 heads where u jus hog them out. air velocity is one very important key to look at when it comes to a honda head if you mess up the air velocity on one of these heads, then the motor will perform like **** through out the rpm range.
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Buy a LS block and put together a LSV setup up then sell the whole b16 to get your cash back and then some
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Old Nov 6, 2010 | 06:31 AM
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I 'd look into purchasing some aftermarket valve springs and titanium retainers also a set of sk2 stg 3 cams. Also as for head porting send the head to someone who is reputable with porting honda heads. The one thing about honda heads is that you need to know what your doing when porting them cause they aren't like domestic v8 heads where u jus hog them out. air velocity is one very important key to look at when it comes to a honda head if you mess up the air velocity on one of these heads, then the motor will perform like **** through out the rpm range.
He's running a b16a block, so those cams you mentioned would not be a good choice for his build and intended use.
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Old Nov 6, 2010 | 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by tagperformance
I 'd look into purchasing some aftermarket valve springs and titanium retainers also a set of sk2 stg 3 cams. Also as for head porting send the head to someone who is reputable with porting honda heads. The one thing about honda heads is that you need to know what your doing when porting them cause they aren't like domestic v8 heads where u jus hog them out. air velocity is one very important key to look at when it comes to a honda head if you mess up the air velocity on one of these heads, then the motor will perform like **** through out the rpm range.
head has 70lb super tech springs.
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Old Nov 6, 2010 | 08:27 AM
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He's running a b16a block, so those cams you mentioned would not be a good choice for his build and intended use.
if i were to get some aftermarket cams what you recommend? Ive read some good things about the endyne bumpsticks and they are only $550.
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Old Nov 6, 2010 | 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by EHondaJDM
Buy a LS block and put together a LSV setup up then sell the whole b16 to get your cash back and then some
Or sell the b16 and find a GSR block and have yourself a nice GSR with a built head
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Old Nov 6, 2010 | 09:15 AM
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the bumpstix are good in 1.8 and larger. S2S1, blox a, buddy club 3, toda a
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Old Nov 6, 2010 | 09:47 AM
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the bumpstix are good in 1.8 and larger. S2S1, blox a, buddy club 3, toda a
good in a 1.8 overall such as gsr, type r, ect.....? or just 1.8 head?
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Old Nov 6, 2010 | 09:48 AM
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also have been on the hunt for a gsr block. they are hard to find.
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Old Nov 6, 2010 | 09:53 AM
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1.8 refers to engine size/displacement.
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Old Nov 6, 2010 | 01:00 PM
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OMG, Dude. You start this thread asking if you should use the "ported & polished" GS-R head or the B16 and it's turning into yet another "What should I do with my car?" thread.

Here's your step by step:

1. Multi-step process and will more than likely require help
a. Have a friend grab you by your shoulders
b. Have said friend PULL -- length of time and intensity of pulling will vary from case to case
c. Continue pulling until you hear a loud, audible POP. You can't mistake it (It's the sound of your head passing through your **** sphincters)
d. Gather your faculties--It may take a while, varying with how long you've been a lazy f*ck and had your head up your ***
2. Sign on Honda-Tech
3. Check out the All Motor FAQ
4. Check out stickied threads about builds in the All Motor Forum (shows what people have had success with)
5**. (Optional) If you still have questions, make a thread and ask the question. BUT ask a well-thought-out question that shows you've done your due diligence for research so as to not give the impression that you STILL have your head up your ***
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Old Nov 6, 2010 | 02:13 PM
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Id personally look for a 1.8 block, you could deff sell your b16 and get a LS and make it a reliable LSV setup

Originally Posted by 00Red_SiR
the bumpstix are good in 1.8 and larger. S2S1, blox a, buddy club 3, toda a
Wasn't u just saying NOT to buy BLOX products??

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OMG, Dude. You start this thread asking if you should use the "ported & polished" GS-R head or the B16 and it's turning into yet another "What should I do with my car?" thread.

Here's your step by step:

1. Multi-step process and will more than likely require help
a. Have a friend grab you by your shoulders
b. Have said friend PULL -- length of time and intensity of pulling will vary from case to case
c. Continue pulling until you hear a loud, audible POP. You can't mistake it (It's the sound of your head passing through your **** sphincters)
d. Gather your faculties--It may take a while, varying with how long you've been a lazy f*ck and had your head up your ***
2. Sign on Honda-Tech
3. Check out the All Motor FAQ
4. Check out stickied threads about builds in the All Motor Forum (shows what people have had success with)
5**. (Optional) If you still have questions, make a thread and ask the question. BUT ask a well-thought-out question that shows you've done your due diligence for research so as to not give the impression that you STILL have your head up your ***
You bitch worse than a woman. We answered his question and he followed up with another that all. When will you realize you're not a mod?
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Old Nov 6, 2010 | 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by C_Rock77
OMG, Dude. You start this thread asking if you should use the "ported & polished" GS-R head or the B16 and it's turning into yet another "What should I do with my car?" thread.

Here's your step by step:

1. Multi-step process and will more than likely require help
a. Have a friend grab you by your shoulders
b. Have said friend PULL -- length of time and intensity of pulling will vary from case to case
c. Continue pulling until you hear a loud, audible POP. You can't mistake it (It's the sound of your head passing through your **** sphincters)
d. Gather your faculties--It may take a while, varying with how long you've been a lazy f*ck and had your head up your ***
2. Sign on Honda-Tech
3. Check out the All Motor FAQ
4. Check out stickied threads about builds in the All Motor Forum (shows what people have had success with)
5**. (Optional) If you still have questions, make a thread and ask the question. BUT ask a well-thought-out question that shows you've done your due diligence for research so as to not give the impression that you STILL have your head up your ***
idk how often you have a friend rub your shoulders and give you a tug, but i think most of the people here would rather try something else. you dont help anyone with your posts. get a map, **** off, and shove your head back in your friends ***.
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