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Old Oct 26, 2010 | 06:44 PM
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Default A 13 Second D15???

I know some of you have already read about this and already know.

This is mainly for the guys that are close minded and think that if you dont have a swap, you wont do anything.

This thread is for the guys who are on a tight budget and cant afford to do a B18+ swap.

Here is the breakdown:
1990 Civic Sedan 2300lbs with driver
1.5L non vtec
Ported Head
Bisimoto Camshaft
ARIAS 76mm pistons 15:1+
Bisimoto Valve Springs
Bisimoto Cam Gear
Bisimoto Header
Weber Dual 45mm sidedraft carbs
Stock rods
Stock rod bolts.
ARP head studs

Not much into the engine honestly.

The car was Dyno'd Last September @ CTR Dynosports and it made 158whp & 118ft/lbs.

The car has run a best of 13.95@97mph missing 2nd & 3rd gear.

Imagine what a 1.74 60ft could do with a complete run.

For the guys that think that the D cant do anything, you might want to think again. All of these parts are readily available to you. Non of them are custom made. And in a somewhat heavy car..

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Old Oct 26, 2010 | 07:06 PM
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Let's be honest here, this isn't a tight budget build.

Pretty cool for a D15 though, I guess.
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Old Oct 26, 2010 | 09:01 PM
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i think most of the low budget guys need to be able to street drive there car also ...
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Old Oct 26, 2010 | 11:17 PM
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Holy ****. 15:1! Props man. But I can cam a bvtec motor with oem pistons and all itr pumps/manifold/tb, and a tri-y header and go 12's on 93 octane.
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Old Oct 27, 2010 | 12:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Madmood
I know some of you have already read about this and already know.

This is mainly for the guys that are close minded and think that if you dont have a swap, you wont do anything.

This thread is for the guys who are on a tight budget and cant afford to do a B18+ swap.

Here is the breakdown:
1990 Civic Sedan 2300lbs with driver
1.5L non vtec
Ported Head
Bisimoto Camshaft
ARIAS 76mm pistons 15:1+
Bisimoto Valve Springs
Bisimoto Cam Gear
Bisimoto Header
Weber Dual 45mm sidedraft carbs
Stock rods
Stock rod bolts.
ARP head studs

Not much into the engine honestly.

The car was Dyno'd Last September @ CTR Dynosports and it made 158whp & 118ft/lbs.

The car has run a best of 13.95@97mph missing 2nd & 3rd gear.

Imagine what a 1.74 60ft could do with a complete run.

For the guys that think that the D cant do anything, you might want to think again. All of these parts are readily available to you. Non of them are custom made. And in a somewhat heavy car..

your proving the point against your self. running a best time of 13.95 two years ago and not being able to beat that with a single cam that has easily 3k+ into it isn't anything to brag about. Im sorry. single cams are great if you ask me but going na on them is a waste unless you have an incredibly light chassis to run it in. I have the same car that does low 13's on street tires and I did 12.5 first pass on slicks. I still get 28-32mpg on 92 oct and its very streetable while still being a budget build for a na car.


.... sorry but 13's isn't anything to brag about. especially barley being in the 13's.
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Old Oct 27, 2010 | 07:24 AM
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this is wicked cool for sure, that is the baddest non vtec b15 I've ever seen. you have to think that a stock b18c swap would be cheaper, easier and faster though.
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Old Oct 27, 2010 | 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by neverstop
you have to think that a stock b18c swap would be cheaper, easier and faster though.
You are probably right about that. But not everyone wants to do the same old "Cookie Cutter" build. There is nothing wrong with that so please dont take that comment the wrong way.

K7-1Ktrevor- You are right. It was 2 years ago that it ran that time. Actually those runs were with a bone stock bottom end and the only thing done to the head was springs and cam. Since then , we have changed over to higher compression pistons , Ported head , and changed up some gearing.

The changes allowed us to go from a high 1.8 60ft. to a low 1.7 60ft. and still spinning the tires off the line.

We have been fighting transmission issues for the past year and a half. The car didnt want to shift above 8000 rpm. I changed clutches and on the first pass, it blew the clutch right up. So over the Winter we will be swapping to a B trans and see what happens.

We might even put this setup in a much lighter chassis. Remember, the car weighs 2300lbs with the driver. A nice CRX that weighs 1700lbs with driver would be a huge difference.

I never said that 13's was fast at all... Its just not everyday that people take the time to try and do it simple with a D. I know that there are much faster D's out there. But there is more money invested in them also.

Besides... Its all about having fun.
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Old Oct 27, 2010 | 08:23 AM
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cool build though
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Old Oct 27, 2010 | 11:22 AM
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Send the trans to me Don. I have no problem getting them to shift at 9.5k.
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Old Oct 27, 2010 | 12:02 PM
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man with the header alone you couldve bought a ls full swap from a DA, not knocking it just dont see how the money is being justified by that 1/4 time.
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Old Oct 27, 2010 | 12:13 PM
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Refreshing to see some old school stuff....I'm a fan.
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Old Oct 27, 2010 | 02:16 PM
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Pretty cool to see a single cam run good though
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Old Oct 27, 2010 | 02:20 PM
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Honestly i ran this time (13.9) in 98 - 99 in a 92 civic 4 door daily driven with full interior.

Stock block from the backyard..

cheapy ported head (milled all the way down to the valves)

mild cam (custom)

stock valve springs and retainers

ported stock intake mani

stock TB bored out.

and on a POS No name header too.

had a similar setup but 1.6 single, in a crx daily driven HF. car ran 13.1

Put pistons in the block (12:1) and ran 12.8.

sorry and this was in 98-99.....

honestly for all the money you spent its not all that fast..

but good luck on whatever you decide to do...
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Old Oct 27, 2010 | 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Aquafina
Send the trans to me Don. I have no problem getting them to shift at 9.5k.
Thanks Chris. But I have this B series trans sitting in the garage with a Quaife and a 4.7FD waiting to go in..

Also- I never said that the time was a good one. If you all would have read correctly , you would have read that the 13.95 was missing 2nd & 3rd gears.. The trans would not shift above 8000rpm. We normally shift closer to 9000rpm. Cable D transmissions have Aluminum shift forks which tend to bend/flex when trying to shift that high. The B trans will fix these issues.

Yes I know that I could just throw in a swap. But what fun is that when everyone is doing it? Why not try and be a little different from the rest. Also in the class that we run, Street Stock. We need to keep the same engine that the car came with.

So over the Winter , we will be redoing quite a bit and hoping for a 12. Not fast for most. But not slow for the class. It is a purpose built setup. 160whp+ and low 1.7 60ft's should make for a pretty quick street car.

And yes, it still has full interior and power windows & locks. It is not gutted at all.
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Old Oct 27, 2010 | 03:33 PM
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its cool to see something different. I always liked the underdog motors. now you just need to get out there and get some good passes. quit letting your old lady drive it lol thats the tranny problem. jk.
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Old Oct 27, 2010 | 05:21 PM
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sophie is what made it crack 13's. Don has the beer and home cooking to thank for having the driver mod just messin with ya buddy. ya'll need to make a trip out here for WCF's.
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Old Oct 27, 2010 | 05:37 PM
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Looks like a fun build. Love the domes
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Old Oct 27, 2010 | 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by K7-1Ktrevor
its cool to see something different. I always liked the underdog motors. now you just need to get out there and get some good passes. quit letting your old lady drive it lol thats the tranny problem. jk.
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sophie is what made it crack 13's. Don has the beer and home cooking to thank for having the driver mod just messin with ya buddy. ya'll need to make a trip out here for WCF's.
Haha. Yeah you are right Justin. Every time I drive the car, my 220+lbs *** breaks axles. She is much lighter than I am.

I am actually having more fun watching the car go down the track instead of driving right now.. I have had my 20+ years of fun. But thats not to say I wont get back in another car though..
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Old Oct 27, 2010 | 05:53 PM
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i know you got that CRX with a B just waiting....
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Old Oct 27, 2010 | 07:11 PM
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dont get me wrong whith what i said ... i still think its bad *** that a single cam 4 banger is droppin acouple v-8s at the track
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Old Oct 27, 2010 | 07:31 PM
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id love to have something like this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zulee2XCgxU
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Old Oct 27, 2010 | 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by K7-1Ktrevor
id love to have something like this
Yeah thats pretty cool.. It is a d16 that has been sleeved and 79mm pistons. Talk about no budget build..
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Old Oct 27, 2010 | 10:21 PM
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Yeah thats pretty cool.. It is a d16 that has been sleeved and 79mm pistons. Talk about no budget build..
no its not.

76mm p29's, oem rods and crankshaft, z6 head worked by melvin ports in PR, race cam, springs-ret, skunk2 i'm, cam gear, pr3 obd0 tuned by C-tuned, dc sports 4-1 header without exhaust, open diff, 3" intake.

guy says the car is 1700lbs with driver.

heres the thread.
https://honda-tech.com/forums/drag-racing-36/crx-sohc-all-motor-google-page-ranking-12-33-a-2488122/
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Old Oct 28, 2010 | 10:45 AM
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Its all good... I have seen on other boards about that "p29" build.

This D setup is only going to be in the car until my 17:1 F2x setup is complete. Hopefully some time next year. But I am in no rush. Its all about having fun right now. And with the new transmission & few other changes, it should run much better next season.
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Old Oct 28, 2010 | 11:59 AM
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There's nothing budget about a $3k build. You might have gotten a deal or two tho, considering you're good friends with Bisi and all.

Also, you could have waited until you had at least a 12 second pass to post this. Makes you look kinda lame for having some much work/money invested and only run 13's. Doesn't matter how many gears you missed.

You wana talk budget;
A6 block
75.25mm Civic GX pistons
LS rods
Y5 head
DC header
GSR throttle body
2.5" exhaust

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/h...octanepeak.jpg

33/41mpg and still on 87.
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