25 MPG out of an hf crx... WTF!

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Old Oct 26, 2010 | 11:54 AM
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I just filled my CRX up and it only got 25 mpg. It's 100% stock besides header, test pipe, 2.5 inch cat back and intake. No CEL but does have a vicious idle, when I start it cold the car has a honda idle from 2000 rpm to 2200 rpm and when it warms up it idles from 1200 rpm to 1500 rpm. I cleaned out the IACV and did a coolant flush/fill and changed the air filter last night.
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Old Oct 26, 2010 | 12:11 PM
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I just filled my CRX up and it only got 25 mpg. It's 100% stock besides header, test pipe, 2.5 inch cat back and intake. No CEL but does have a vicious idle, when I start it cold the car has a honda idle from 2000 rpm to 2200 rpm and when it warms up it idles from 1200 rpm to 1500 rpm. I cleaned out the IACV and did a coolant flush/fill and changed the air filter last night.
Fixing that idle issue will help. You could also do a tune up. When's the last time you changed your plugs, cap and rotor? How old is your o2 sensor?
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Old Oct 26, 2010 | 12:22 PM
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x2 try this, my hatch gets around 30 and its not an hf and its not dual point either
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Old Oct 26, 2010 | 01:17 PM
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Well I just messed with the idle screw and it calmly idles at 900 rpm'd now , and I am unaware on how old the cap, rotor and plugs are being that I got the car about a month ago, I was thinking of getting a fuel filter as well?
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Old Oct 26, 2010 | 03:58 PM
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all good ideas fuel filter with todays crap gasoline i do one once a year
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Old Oct 26, 2010 | 07:34 PM
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which idle adjusting screw are you talking about? The top one or the bottom one? the one on the bottom of the TB adjusts the base idle.

I had the same problem and my base idle was way off. You should not be idling that high when you start up. When I start up my hf in cold weather it goes up to about 1900 and almost immediately starts going down.

ohh maybe you are doing your math wrong. I have never heard of an hf getting that low of mileage. my hf routinely gets 45 in the city and one time on the freeway i got 64.1 mpg.
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Old Oct 26, 2010 | 09:48 PM
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Your idle should be around 700rpms (off the top of my head).

Check your ignition and timing. Cleaning the fuel filters and fuel injectors is always a good thing!

Adjust your valve lash to HF spec.

If it's still bad do a compression test.
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Old Oct 27, 2010 | 12:01 AM
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which idle adjusting screw are you talking about? The top one or the bottom one? the one on the bottom of the TB adjusts the base idle.

I had the same problem and my base idle was way off. You should not be idling that high when you start up. When I start up my hf in cold weather it goes up to about 1900 and almost immediately starts going down.

ohh maybe you are doing your math wrong. I have never heard of an hf getting that low of mileage. my hf routinely gets 45 in the city and one time on the freeway i got 64.1 mpg.
I adjusted the top one but it seems to be running fine, I've put 25 miles on it and it hasn't done that goofy idle once.
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Old Oct 28, 2010 | 09:20 AM
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Default Re: 25 MPG out of an hf crx... WTF!

o2 sensor is my guess. i got low 30's when mine went. The engine light didn't come on right away either.
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Old Oct 28, 2010 | 02:04 PM
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Would it cause the car to sputter occasionally?
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Old Oct 29, 2010 | 11:11 AM
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I just filled it up last night and got 30 MPG, do you guys think it just might be too big of an exhaust?
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Old Oct 29, 2010 | 11:18 AM
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well did you do a proper tune up yet? cap, rotor, spark plugs/wires, because sputtering can be missfire solution proper tune up.
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Old Oct 29, 2010 | 12:09 PM
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Stuck thermometer can kill mileage too. sputtering can mean different things... does it do it consistently or randomly? Consistently is often a timing issue, randomly is often a distributor or electrical issue, like cap & rotor or plug wires.
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Old Oct 29, 2010 | 12:58 PM
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Default Re: 25 MPG out of an hf crx... WTF!

Well I pulled the plug wires and cap off, and the wires are all corroded to hell as well as the cap. So I'm going to put a cap, rotor, plugs and wires and see if that helps(I'm sure it will.)

The thermostat seems to be working fine, It very randomly sputters, but isn't terrible.
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Old Nov 7, 2010 | 09:15 AM
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I did a tune up(plugs, wires, cap and rotor) and changed the air filter. It's still getting 25 MPG. The O2 sensor has 10,000 miles on it. I have NEVER seen a check engine light.

EDIT: I just replaced the fuel filter.

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Old Nov 7, 2010 | 05:07 PM
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does the check engine light work when you first turn on the key?? before you start the car? it may be a bad bulb. also check the LED on the ECU
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Old Nov 7, 2010 | 05:15 PM
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Default Re: 25 MPG out of an hf crx... WTF!

Yeah it comes on when I key it up.
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Old Nov 7, 2010 | 05:15 PM
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Default Re: 25 MPG out of an hf crx... WTF!

i thought i already posted this but perhaps you have too much of a flowing exhaust on the car? as in it has no back pressure so you're having to stomp on the gas to go any where?
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Old Nov 7, 2010 | 05:17 PM
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Default Re: 25 MPG out of an hf crx... WTF!

After I did the tune up, the pedal feel has dramatically changed, now I just touch the pedal and it will scoot easily, Could it just be the exhaust? The cat-back is a glass pack to a 2.5 inch straight pipe.
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Old Nov 8, 2010 | 12:10 AM
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I just filled up and got 36 MPG after the fuel filter change, I'm starting to think it's just the high flowing exhaust.
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