Calling Tire Guru's for 400whp Traction!
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I will be honest, I did search but I'm not very good with tire specs. I currently have 17" Volk LE37s on some 215/45/17 bridgestone g-sports, I don't rub on the fenders, but I rub on the inner wall.
I'm about 2 weeks away from tuning day and am planning on making 400-450whp, and I know for a damn fact those shitty tires aren't gonna hold up.
I'm aware that I'm going to need smaller wheels and that isn't a problem. What specs can I look at to fit the widest tire possible without crazy modification (flaring fenders and such). I want to fit a 225 or 235 if possible, but I'm not sure what offset I need, as I need to clear my 12" rotors and wilwood calipers.... Any help would be great, or even a push to the right direction.
What size can I go with? 15s or 16s and how wide? What offset would I need for it to clear and what size tire?
I'm about 2 weeks away from tuning day and am planning on making 400-450whp, and I know for a damn fact those shitty tires aren't gonna hold up.
I'm aware that I'm going to need smaller wheels and that isn't a problem. What specs can I look at to fit the widest tire possible without crazy modification (flaring fenders and such). I want to fit a 225 or 235 if possible, but I'm not sure what offset I need, as I need to clear my 12" rotors and wilwood calipers.... Any help would be great, or even a push to the right direction.
What size can I go with? 15s or 16s and how wide? What offset would I need for it to clear and what size tire?
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I'd like SOME treadlife lol, I know I'm sacrificing treadlife with sticky tires, but are there any options with ok treadlife?
This is on a 99 dc2 btw
This is on a 99 dc2 btw
On an Integra, the best size to avoid rubbing is 205/40-17, and I would not go larger than that. The only one of these tires available in that size is the Falken Azenis RT-615K (which has replaced the RT-615).
Don't worry about differences in treadwidth, because they won't make a whole lot of difference. Differences in tires (getting a make/model of tire that's stickier) makes all the difference. You've already proved this to yourself, by finding that the overwide BFG g-Force Sport you're using now doesn't grip worth squat. So get stickier tires, and avoid rubbing by getting them in the same outer diameter as stock tires. That means 205/40-17.
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So I can keep my 17s?? Ohh nice! Thanks nsxtasy, I was hoping You would see my thread! Thanks for the good news :D
Speaking for Kumho XS, I have them in 205/50/15 on my integra and while I loved them on lower power, @400 wheel you still wont get traction. With decent tread, it will still fight for traction in fourth. Thats the boat I am in, I think the R1R is the best bet.
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The R1R isn't going to give significantly better traction than the XS. If the XS isn't enough, you're going to need to get something like slicks or drag radials (and yes, they are expensive and don't last very long).
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I'll go with the azenis, I'm also having boost by gear and boost by speed programmed in, that should help a bit. What are some other things I can do for traction? I have koni ground controls, stiffer in the rear (I forgot the exact rates but I have the part numbers so I'll check when i get home). I also have full race traction bars in mind, when the money allows
. Anything else that can aid me in my battle for traction?
. Anything else that can aid me in my battle for traction?
I'll go with the azenis, I'm also having boost by gear and boost by speed programmed in, that should help a bit. What are some other things I can do for traction? I have koni ground controls, stiffer in the rear (I forgot the exact rates but I have the part numbers so I'll check when i get home). I also have full race traction bars in mind, when the money allows
. Anything else that can aid me in my battle for traction?
. Anything else that can aid me in my battle for traction?
Traction bars definitely will help, but they will help more with wheel hop than actual tire traction. Boost by gear and boost by speed are only going to help so much; you want full boost as soon as possible right? You can limit boost based on traction but that will not always be consistent. Many other variables come into play as well such as wet/dry, tire pressure, tire type, etc.
That's really unusual treadlife for an R compound track tire. Most people running them on the street won't get more than about 5K (and even less when using them on the racetrack). And they're designed for cornering rather than acceleration.
If street tires aren't good enough, and this is for street or dragstrip use (rather than a racetrack), get some slicks or drag radials instead.
If street tires aren't good enough, and this is for street or dragstrip use (rather than a racetrack), get some slicks or drag radials instead.
That's really unusual treadlife for an R compound track tire. Most people running them on the street won't get more than about 5K (and even less when using them on the racetrack). And they're designed for cornering rather than acceleration.
If street tires aren't good enough, and this is for street or dragstrip use (rather than a racetrack), get some slicks or drag radials instead.
If street tires aren't good enough, and this is for street or dragstrip use (rather than a racetrack), get some slicks or drag radials instead.
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ill probably go with the azenis 205/40/17. I understand the boost by gear and boost by speed will only do so much, but i gotta use everything to my disposal to hook up 400+ hp lol. is there any other methods of controlling traction?
I don't know how good or bad the roads are there but here there not so great. My car made 445whp an 346tq. I used the hondata boost by gear program and saw 25lbs(full boost)in 3 and 4 gear. I used type r LSD with 215/50/16 nitto neo gen, Car only spins a little bit in first and second but doesn't roast the tires or anything
I don't know how good or bad the roads are there but here there not so great. My car made 445whp an 346tq. I used the hondata boost by gear program and saw 25lbs(full boost)in 3 and 4 gear. I used type r LSD with 215/50/16 nitto neo gen, Car only spins a little bit in first and second but doesn't roast the tires or anything
If I can hook in third @ full boost consistently with the neo gens then hell yes.
Then I am confused how he is getting traction at full boost on those tires. What trans are you running? Even on an LS trans with lsd i don't see how you can get full traction.
edit: clarity
edit: clarity
Last edited by justin.parker; Oct 28, 2010 at 03:32 PM.
20lbs in 3rd will hook on all seasons for me. Thats about 420-430whp.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JgGhH8CQv4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JgGhH8CQv4
20lbs in 3rd will hook on all seasons for me. Thats about 420-430whp.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JgGhH8CQv4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JgGhH8CQv4
Sup I do not own a Honda, but I do have a FWD car running a little over 300whp, 2200lb car.
Well never have been able to hook 1st gear! I have manged to get on second gear and up pretty well.
If I have good tires on I never have slipping issues running in 3d.
Yes wider tire helps a lot. I use a 255/40/17 R-comps tires most of the time. I am using Toyo ra1's at the moment with about 10k miles on them.
Am thinking of setting my boost low for 1st gear, to get traction.
Well never have been able to hook 1st gear! I have manged to get on second gear and up pretty well.
If I have good tires on I never have slipping issues running in 3d.
Yes wider tire helps a lot. I use a 255/40/17 R-comps tires most of the time. I am using Toyo ra1's at the moment with about 10k miles on them.
Am thinking of setting my boost low for 1st gear, to get traction.
Originally Posted by LightningTeg
Tein SS coilovers, LS trans, SC61.

Maybe I just can't drive?




