Drag Racing Drag Racing (legal) & Associated Topics

GE Sleeving. How many people get or need Align Hone after?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Oct 20, 2010 | 11:33 AM
  #1  
Drag4Life723's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 137
Likes: 0
From: Detroit, MI
Default GE Sleeving. How many people get or need Align Hone after?

Just like the title say. I was wondering how many people align hone there engines after sleeving.

Thanks

**************************UPDATE!!!*************** ******************************

Bob at Golden Eagle contacted me and is going to make this right! So if a MOD can lock this please do and then when i get the block back i will update with pics and a review.

Thank you Bob at Golden Eagle

Im glad to see there are companies out there willing to make a mistake right.


Russ C
11-18-10

Last edited by Drag4Life723; Nov 18, 2010 at 12:47 PM.
Reply
Old Oct 20, 2010 | 02:17 PM
  #2  
OMG B16's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 2,460
Likes: 0
From: Spinning, FL, USA
Default Re: GE Sleeving. How many people get or need Align Hone after?

My block didnt need to be align honed when i got it from GE. It was well within spec.
Reply
Old Oct 20, 2010 | 02:33 PM
  #3  
Ls_dx's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 1,934
Likes: 0
From: RENO, NV
Default Re: GE Sleeving. How many people get or need Align Hone after?

They dont Line Hone it ?
Reply
Old Oct 20, 2010 | 03:19 PM
  #4  
welfarepc's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 2,946
Likes: 1
Default Re: GE Sleeving. How many people get or need Align Hone after?

i would hope they would line hone it
Reply
Old Oct 20, 2010 | 03:21 PM
  #5  
ScorpioMk's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 444
Likes: 0
From: Lynnwood, WA, US
Default Re: GE Sleeving. How many people get or need Align Hone after?

my block is within spec but just barely (f20c).
Reply
Old Oct 20, 2010 | 03:43 PM
  #6  
BlueByYou's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 202
Likes: 0
From: Torrance, CA, USA
Default Re: GE Sleeving. How many people get or need Align Hone after?

my b18a block from ge was way out wack, almost to the point that i was going to send it back, but i decided to keep it because i wanted to make the race the following week.
Reply
Old Oct 20, 2010 | 03:54 PM
  #7  
hello1320's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 1,937
Likes: 0
Default Re: GE Sleeving. How many people get or need Align Hone after?

GE suggests line hone after sleeving...its up to you...i always have it checked and done if needed.
Reply
Old Oct 20, 2010 | 04:30 PM
  #8  
narfdanarf's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 1,309
Likes: 0
From: Miura-Shi, Japan
Default Re: GE Sleeving. How many people get or need Align Hone after?

Mine isn't.
Reply
Old Oct 20, 2010 | 07:19 PM
  #9  
SPOOLINmatt's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 7,913
Likes: 0
From: North Georgia/Atlanta
Default Re: GE Sleeving. How many people get or need Align Hone after?

ive never done it to a GE block...never had an issue and i've dealt with 4 personally and around 10 with other peoples engines that ive built.
Reply
Old Oct 20, 2010 | 07:45 PM
  #10  
JFK78's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 1,158
Likes: 1
From: SpeedFactory, WA
Default Re: GE Sleeving. How many people get or need Align Hone after?

We've done countless GE sleeved blocks, and found the need for an align hone afterwards to be extremely rare.
Reply
Old Oct 20, 2010 | 07:50 PM
  #11  
Garage 808 Hatch's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 5,433
Likes: 2
From: CRESWELL, Oregon, 97426
Default Re: GE Sleeving. How many people get or need Align Hone after?

I had to align hone mine.
Reply
Old Oct 20, 2010 | 07:57 PM
  #12  
hybrid_KJ's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 590
Likes: 0
From: Tampa, FL, USA
Default Re: GE Sleeving. How many people get or need Align Hone after?

How are you guys checking if the journals are aligned?
Reply
Old Oct 20, 2010 | 08:18 PM
  #13  
AllMotorRandy's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 2,220
Likes: 1
From: So Cal
Default Re: GE Sleeving. How many people get or need Align Hone after?

From what I've been told... the only time you need to align hone is when....

1. Installing main studs
2. Using main caps from another block

Align honing after sleeving only means that the machine shop really messed up the block during the installation process....
Reply
Old Oct 20, 2010 | 11:22 PM
  #14  
extralargenog's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 2,938
Likes: 7
From: Blah Blah Blah, wa, Erf
Default Re: GE Sleeving. How many people get or need Align Hone after?

No need on mine
Reply
Old Oct 21, 2010 | 02:29 AM
  #15  
The sweed's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 514
Likes: 0
From: IKEA Land
Default Re: GE Sleeving. How many people get or need Align Hone after?

I have bought about 10 blocks from GE and shipped them one. The one I have send them came out nice when sleeved but if I buy a core from them that they provide and sleeve about 50-75% of them need a linebore or linehone or is damage in other ways. One that I got had a big dent on a main bearing seat so the dowelpin did not fit very well and the spec on that mainbearing seat was all over the place. It needed a linebore. They had tried to grind the damage down too with something so it was not someting that happened when shipped.
Another block was an "ear" on the waterpump seat cracked on. One could tell that it was damaged before cleaning, mediablasting or whatever they use because it was cleaned inside the crack.
I talked to GE and thay could take care of it if I send the blocks back but when I am in europe that is just to expensive.. I think that they could check all the blocks for a quality controll.

I still choose their blocks because I think they have the strongest design.
Reply
Old Oct 21, 2010 | 02:19 PM
  #16  
3minburnout's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 857
Likes: 0
From: land of the free
Default Re: GE Sleeving. How many people get or need Align Hone after?

Originally Posted by hybrid_KJ
How are you guys checking if the journals are aligned?
Reply
Old Oct 21, 2010 | 02:45 PM
  #17  
extralargenog's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 2,938
Likes: 7
From: Blah Blah Blah, wa, Erf
Default Re: GE Sleeving. How many people get or need Align Hone after?

HOW you go about lining the block matters as well,
Reply
Old Oct 22, 2010 | 08:52 AM
  #18  
Drag4Life723's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 137
Likes: 0
From: Detroit, MI
Default Re: GE Sleeving. How many people get or need Align Hone after?

Thanks every one! The reason i asked is i got a B20 done and it needs align hone in a bad way and was curious to see how many people need it done after?
Reply
Old Oct 22, 2010 | 09:35 AM
  #19  
Ls_dx's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 1,934
Likes: 0
From: RENO, NV
Default Re: GE Sleeving. How many people get or need Align Hone after?

Suprised Robert doesnt have any input....
Reply
Old Oct 22, 2010 | 09:41 AM
  #20  
drvfast's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 2,105
Likes: 0
From: Florida, us
Default Re: GE Sleeving. How many people get or need Align Hone after?

I got mine align hone when GE did my block. Robert from GE recommended me to do it.
Reply
Old Oct 22, 2010 | 11:38 AM
  #21  
Garage 808 Hatch's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 5,433
Likes: 2
From: CRESWELL, Oregon, 97426
Default Re: GE Sleeving. How many people get or need Align Hone after?

From what i remember, Robert isnt at GE anymore??
Reply
Old Oct 22, 2010 | 11:48 AM
  #22  
SD_Lurker's Avatar
HT White Ops
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 6,116
Likes: 0
From: Ova Thur, United States
Default Re: GE Sleeving. How many people get or need Align Hone after?

Originally Posted by Garage 808 Hatch
From what i remember, Robert isnt at GE anymore??
Hopefully that's true.. I know several people that wanna tap that dudes chin..
Reply
Old Oct 22, 2010 | 12:07 PM
  #23  
narfdanarf's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 1,309
Likes: 0
From: Miura-Shi, Japan
Default Re: GE Sleeving. How many people get or need Align Hone after?

I know a lot of people didn't really like him, but GE has gone downhill ever since he left IMO.
Reply
Old Oct 22, 2010 | 12:10 PM
  #24  
HPgonewild's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 317
Likes: 0
Default Re: GE Sleeving. How many people get or need Align Hone after?

Other sleeving processes don't need a line hone since it doesnt crush the mains. Only GE I believe has this issue due to the way they install the sleeves. It distorts the mains during install and that is why they require line hone on most of them. And I assume they don't really measure themselves so I would assume ALL should get them done.

That is one reason people that I've been around with use other companies since the other processes dont require the line hone. When its all said and done, GE comes out more expensive than everyone else due to needing the line hone. A line hone can be as cheap as $150 to $400, depending on where you go.
That would suck if you have matching mains to the block and you're still needing to line hone. Seems like a waste of money.

Originally Posted by narfdanarf
I know a lot of people didn't really like him, but GE has gone downhill ever since he left IMO.
Because they can't get the backdoor special price anymore?
Reply
Old Oct 22, 2010 | 01:22 PM
  #25  
extralargenog's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 2,938
Likes: 7
From: Blah Blah Blah, wa, Erf
Default Re: GE Sleeving. How many people get or need Align Hone after?

Originally Posted by HPgonewild
Other sleeving processes don't need a line hone since it doesnt crush the mains. Only GE I believe has this issue due to the way they install the sleeves.

Incorrect. Are you familiar with how sleeves are installed in GENERAL?


I know plenty of fols that didnt need a line hone after GE sleeves.
Reply



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 08:24 PM.