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Old Oct 11, 2010 | 04:43 PM
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I drive a 2003 rsx with a k20a3 engine. recently, when the engine is at idle and you rev it up to 2000 rpm and let off the the throttle, the revs drop to 500 rpm almost shutting off then it revs back up and settle at 800 rpm. i cleaned the iacv thoroughly and made sure that it moves freely, but the same thing happens.

my mechanic said it was the TPS thats causing it, but when he put the diagnostic machine on im getting .47 at closed throttle and many people say thats in range. I have no CEL. someone please help!!
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Old Oct 11, 2010 | 04:55 PM
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Tps sensor
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Old Oct 11, 2010 | 05:04 PM
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Tps sensor
mind explaining why or how? because the manual says .45-.5v is ok!
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Old Oct 11, 2010 | 05:09 PM
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mind explaining why or how? because the manual says .45-.5v is ok!
Just is no explaining needed
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Old Oct 11, 2010 | 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Mctaggart.34life
Just is no explaining needed
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Old Oct 11, 2010 | 08:23 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzW9L53B81U


heres a video of the revs.
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Old Oct 12, 2010 | 02:29 PM
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I drive a 2003 rsx with a k20a3 engine. recently, when the engine is at idle and you rev it up to 2000 rpm and let off the the throttle, the revs drop to 500 rpm almost shutting off then it revs back up and settle at 800 rpm. i cleaned the iacv thoroughly and made sure that it moves freely, but the same thing happens.

my mechanic said it was the TPS thats causing it, but when he put the diagnostic machine on im getting .47 at closed throttle and many people say thats in range. I have no CEL. someone please help!!

This is taken from ClubRSX forum, google and sign up you'll get more help there.

A: replace the TPS sensor, Its harder than you think because the sensor is not available separatly, whole throttle body needed 650-750. Even if you did get your hands on a new TPS sensor, it is attached by headless screws and would need proper calibration by someone who knows what they are doing, and no the base tb tps sensor wont work as the throttle bodies are reversed between the two.
B: buy a used one- problem being you dont know what your gonna get
C: Buy a spoon Bored out TB for $500 ish, but you wont have cruise control.
D: or any other aftermarket TB (limited and not cheaper)

Now, heres what can happen if you dont fix it. the ECU uses the TPS sensor among a sleuth of others to determine how much fuel it should inject. The TPS sensor, in my case, at idle(reading half open) is running rich, and at wide open throttle(reading 3/4 open) is running very lean, long term this can foul your Cat, and then your stuck with even more money to spend to replace the Cat as well. Why the sensor died, who knows, i tested mine and found it out of spec for various specific measurements. No real explanation was given to me aside from that the sensor is ultra sensative and it can happen from time to time....
there is no other choice other than to simply replace it. Rewiring wont work either.
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Old Oct 12, 2010 | 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by tegboy07
This is taken from ClubRSX forum, google and sign up you'll get more help there.

A: replace the TPS sensor, Its harder than you think because the sensor is not available separatly, whole throttle body needed 650-750. Even if you did get your hands on a new TPS sensor, it is attached by headless screws and would need proper calibration by someone who knows what they are doing, and no the base tb tps sensor wont work as the throttle bodies are reversed between the two.
B: buy a used one- problem being you dont know what your gonna get
C: Buy a spoon Bored out TB for $500 ish, but you wont have cruise control.
D: or any other aftermarket TB (limited and not cheaper)

Now, heres what can happen if you dont fix it. the ECU uses the TPS sensor among a sleuth of others to determine how much fuel it should inject. The TPS sensor, in my case, at idle(reading half open) is running rich, and at wide open throttle(reading 3/4 open) is running very lean, long term this can foul your Cat, and then your stuck with even more money to spend to replace the Cat as well. Why the sensor died, who knows, i tested mine and found it out of spec for various specific measurements. No real explanation was given to me aside from that the sensor is ultra sensative and it can happen from time to time....
there is no other choice other than to simply replace it. Rewiring wont work either.
A. i replaced the throttle body. SAME PROBLEM.
b. i replaced the new throttle body. Same Problem.
c. the old tps sensor was reading .47 closed and 4.5 open.

and oh...i am a member of club rsx. they are many member with the same problem thats unsolved.
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Old Oct 13, 2010 | 06:18 AM
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could be a vaccum leak somewhere...i have an issue where my karcepts adapter for the rbc has stripped screws and i get an odd idle all the time...imma take it off this friday and re-tap the adapter to see if that fixes it...so you can get odd idle from having a vaccum leak, i would look for that....
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Old Oct 18, 2010 | 05:08 PM
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a vacuum leak world make it surge when its idling....it doesn't do that,it just go down to 500 rpm then up to 800 when its revved, as the video shows
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Old Oct 18, 2010 | 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by tightshirt
a vacuum leak world make it surge when its idling....it doesn't do that,it just go down to 500 rpm then up to 800 when its revved, as the video shows
not necessarily, are you on stock manifold?
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Old Oct 19, 2010 | 03:55 PM
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not necessarily, are you on stock manifold?
yes im on stock k20a3 manifold
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Old Oct 20, 2010 | 03:37 PM
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stock tb? did you check spark plugs? gaskets for tb an manifold?
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Old Oct 20, 2010 | 03:48 PM
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stock tb? did you check spark plugs? gaskets for tb an manifold?
yes. and it cant be a vacuum leak.
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Old Oct 21, 2010 | 09:58 PM
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Hmm....I had the same thing happen, and it was the IACV. Since you already cleaned it, did you check the seal on it to make sure there are no cracks, tears, etc?
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Old Oct 22, 2010 | 06:59 PM
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Im on clubrsx as well and from all the info i collected this is normal.
No need to worry about it, unless the car completely shuts off then don't worry about it.
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Old Oct 22, 2010 | 08:13 PM
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man come on...its not normal......it just started to happen. i just checked my serpentine belt tensioner and it wobbling back and forth.
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Old Oct 22, 2010 | 09:02 PM
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do you have kpro for your base? The make base kpro don't they?!

Also what are your mods? Do you have a lightened flywheel? Because my car does that.
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Old Oct 22, 2010 | 09:22 PM
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your shift key is stuck. release it and you will be able to stop shouting.
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Old Oct 23, 2010 | 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Type-'S'paz
do you have kpro for your base? The make base kpro don't they?!

Also what are your mods? Do you have a lightened flywheel? Because my car does that.
no kpro, no lighten flywheel
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Old Oct 23, 2010 | 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by tightshirt
yes. and it cant be a vacuum leak.
still sounds like vacuum leak to me if you have tried everything we have suggested, take it to the dealership if your convinced something is wrong...apparently nothing we have suggested is helping you or you have already tried it already...
Originally Posted by eMpAtHy
your shift key is stuck. release it and you will be able to stop shouting.
try this....if it doesnt work, see my above post
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Old Oct 23, 2010 | 01:22 PM
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found the problem.......its the o2 sensor
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