What's everyone's opinion on this?

Seems pretty cool to me.

http://www.advancedkeys.com/Prod_AK103B.html

 

Looks solid... I've never heard of them before, based outta Canada, founded in 2008, accepts paypal and check for payment. They do have online tech support through a forum, or email, but only 1 year warranty, and warranty is only good if installed by "professional shop" with valid receipt. Every company has to start somewhere, I wish I knew some ppl who have this already and have seen what kind of feedback they have. Install is basically the same as installing a remote start/alarm, except no siren. If you get one, let us know how it works out for you...

 

So, I was just thinking abt this thing some more, and a thought crossed my mind... In most of our honda's, we will still have to put the key in the ignition and turn it on to release the steering wheel lock, thus, defeating the purpose of the thing, considering the main point of Advanced Keys advertising is you don't have to fumble with your keys anymore. We would have to modify key cylindars (basically, break the steering wheel lock, I don't like the idea of that.)

 

Read the install manual.
You need to put a cut off key blank in, turn it to the accessory position and then disable the accessory position in the ignition switch.

 

Oh, okay, I can dig it then... sounds like it would be kinda awesome, are you going to get one?

 

I'm thinking about, it would definitely be cool especially if I can build it into my existing alarm.

However, my car is in pieces so adding this won't happen till some time in the spring when it's whole again.

 

Dang, I was hoping you would get it soon, and could give us kind of a review... Im interested, just don't have an extra $300 to experiment with. And yeah, I checked the wiring diagram, not the install manual itself, but based on the diagram, it is possible to integrate with your alarm...

 

I'll definitely give a review once it's all up and running. I just wanted to see if anyone had any experience with it or an opinion.

 

I'm wondering how hard it would be to have a Compustar or Clifford alarm work in unison with this.
Basically have the Advance Key do the arming and disarming of the alarm and not have to press buttons on the alarm fob.

 

Basically, we need to figure out a way to arm and disarm the alarm without using a remote. I've never tried to do that, so, I'd have to ask around. I'll let you know what I find out...

 

the alarm you install with this setup would require an arm/disarm input that could be controlled by the advanced key. i think newer clifford alarms have this ability, which means so would viper and python. not sure about compustar.

 

So, I just got off the phone with DEI tech support. Arming isn't a concern, we can just use passive arming. Disarming is the concern. As soon as you walk to your car, the advanced key is automatically going to unlock the doors, and that's gonna set your alarm off. DEI does make a unit, the 330, that just uses the 12v pulse from the lock and unlock motor to arm and disarm the vehicle. There isn't remote start though. The other option is just to use whatever remote start you have, put it in valet mode, so the advanced key won't set off an alarm, which is okay bc the advanced key is basically a security system also, just no siren.... DEI is developing something similar to the advanced key system, just no engine push to start button... yay DEI :p

 

just looked up what i was thinking too, and Joey is right, not gonna happen.

there is an autopage unit, the FA-110, that is an add on alarm to factory keyless entry. we might be able to pair this up with the lock/unlock output of the advanced key.

 

Well that's no good, hmmm.
I've emailed Advance Key to ask them about using the system with an alarm.

 

That could work... Does that autopage unit have a status ouput that we could use to trigger a stand alone remote start system?

If so, we could make this happen, you would only need the fob for remote starting...

 

All this thinking is making my head hurt... The G2 Racer... does the Advanced Key have an anti grind feature? I know you read the manual already, Im too lazy to look it up right now. The reason I ask abt anti grind, is that we would have to do key take over once we activated remote start, (push the start button), but what if it tries to re-engage the starter? On top of that, key take over requires the brake pedal to be pressed, but at the same time, the Advanced Key requires the brake pedal to be pushed in order to allow the push button start to work.... I see a lot of relays and diodes in our future...

 

well the issue is though, since there are no fobs, how are you gonna trigger a remote start from the buttonless advanced key? the reason that fobless remote starts work is because there is a fob somewhere else that you can force a horn honk from, you use the horn honk to trigger the RS activation input, and bingo bango it starts. since we won't be able to control anything except walking up to the car, we can't control an RS

 

we are going to need a fob for remote start regardless, so, if the autopage unit has status out, we can trigger a remote start with the autopage's fob. So, with all three things installed, we would just use the autopage units fob, but only if we want remote start... Otherwise, no fob needed, and we have security, without the need of any keys or fobs... this is tricky, but I'd love to attempt it!

 

that autopage unit doesn't have fobs, it's strictly an add on to factory keyless

 

you could always do a DEI, code, or autopage single button RS system and use the autopage F-110 alarm with the advanced key setup. as far as the takeover goes, that's gonna be the fun part since most factory PTS system with interfaces for aftermarket RS systems take this into effect.

 

dude...you make my head hurt

 

I make my own head hurt, LOL! Okay, so I think we have this figured out all the way to the point of key take over. Its gonna be tricky, bc, we will have to make the advanced key think the brake is pushed in to allow starting, but we have to keep the remote start from thinking the brake is pushed in at the same time. The advanced key will tell the remote start to think the ignition is on when you press the start button, then we have to engage the brake once again after we press the start button. Like I said, Lots of relays and diodes. If anyone wants to buy these parts, and donate their car to me for a day, Ill sit down and draw it out, and actually figure out how to do it, it would be fun! But to answer the OP's question, yeah, it can be done!

 

sorry, that pre-edit message might be thought of as advertising.

 

Well, if someone wants to spend a couple bucks on some product from HDME and Advance Key, and I'll head from Atlanta to New Mexico, and whoever can bring their car to New Mexico, we'll get in your shop and make this happen Jacob! HDME would be the only place that I know of to have done this, and a lucky volunteer could be the only person that I know of to have this in their car, LOL!

 

So your basically giving up your steering lock sounds kinda dumb.