98ek hatch
skunnk2 lower control arms (oohh so squeaky)
front and rear camber kits,
asr rear subframe
beaks brace
integra front and rear spindles
16x8 +12 wheels
D2 suspension (dont know spring rates of the top of my head)
h22 swap


What size front and rear sway bars would you suggest for my application of DD and fun around town when i beat the car.

 

https://honda-tech.com/search.php
Not trying to be a dick but this topic has been covered numerous times.

 

did search... didn't find anything with my application.

 

Theres bound to be plenty of info here:

https://honda-tech.com/search.php?searchid=1629759

 

--- doesnt work, the link.

 

Stinky....... come lay the hand of the moderator on the poor guy who was overwhelmed by the search feature.
He obvious has no love for reading, reading, and reading some more.
It's as if he thinks his car is the only one of its kind on the earth.
Or.. maybe he should throw it in reverse and go back and do what destroyer said...

Posting in "suspension" got you no where because you didnt search there either.
Keep it simple... one word searches, and then sift through the mountains of information.
Try using Google, you will often find tons of HT threads that will match your inquiry pretty close too.


For the love of god and all that is sacred people. Read!
Just think of how bad this world would be if we all had a some ant poison in our hands.
Then everyone opened it ,and didnt read the box before eating.
Im starting to think I'd be the only one left in this world.
Kinda like Will Smith in I am Legend.
But id need a dog, and some weaponry... maybe a mustang? Naw how about a NSX since we love honda's

Paul who is waiting for all people to read read read and read some more, might have a long wait on his hands!

 

oh there go the neighborhood again and Paul is talking to himself oh nooo.

 

BwwwwaaaaaHaaaa I almost mentioned you in that talking to myself part Charles.

Bad habit I picked up from Scott whos a certifiable looney, and race car genius!
Me.. I just want people to read.
We should make the noobs go through some sort of initiation, maybe read war and peace four times before posting?

 

--- far from noob, and i have googled and searched... like i said before... have not found anything for my application.

 

Not good enough young grasshopper...
I have found plenty of information just googling, but im gonna be a non team player and make you go look for yourself.
Stop being sooo damn lazy and go read the threads.
Here comes the flame... wait for it... can you read?
Your application is not indigenous to Bethlehem PA, and your EK.
BTW you are a nooooob here on this portion of HT.

 

--- like i said, i have done the foot work.. and nothing SPECIFIC to my set up... yeah i have found ek with a h22 swap or h22 swap in eg. but there is people who run trash suspension set ups, or $$ set ups for auto x etc etc.

There are many variables and i have yet to find a specific thread via google, b20, hondatech, and the many other forums out there. I have tried myself and if you aren't going to help with the information asked, then so be it. It's not that big of a deal until next season.

 

Why is the H22 so SPECIAL!? Do you really think a company makes an H swap specific sway bar? I don't see why it would matter, except maybe the weight balance, then you would be looking for springs anyway. So, riddle yourself this... whats the best sway bar out there for the EK?

And then, VOILA! You have answered your own question. Its almost like magic, just less of an illusion.

 

Illusions...Like this guy used to do see below.

Exactly... an engine makes a monsterous difference in what sway bars you should run for Daily driving, and the fun albeit (illegal ) when you beat on the car in town.
(Much sarcasm in my voice)
We dont condone any street beating or fun in town with cars.
You want to have fun... go find a track!

 

Stop being so damn specific. No one else's exact answer will be so for you anyway.
Find some numbers, collect a list of spring rate vs bar diameter vs car weight and come to your own conclusion.
And then change again in a few months. If you by some miracle you pick the perfect numbers for your car and your driving, you won't know it until you try something else anyway.

 

Sorry the link didnt work. Search "sway", in RR/AX, titles only. There are plenty of good threads, usually the ones with lots of posts are the good ones. I honestly dont think you attempted to search.

As for nothing with your setup. Just like mkriebs said, the engine difference will be negligible, even moreso for a street car. Just pay attention to the chassis.

You could help us out by posting your spring rates and tires, and what your intentions are with the car (autocross/rr/dodging pedestrians).

Judging by what you posted here is what I think you should do to make your car handle the best for what you have:

Get rid of the silly low offset 16x8's (for two reasons). Reason 1 being the only proper sized sticky street tires are the Kumho XS and Falken Rt615K in 215/45/16. Reason 2 being is even if you got said tires they wouldnt fit.

Your D2's are probably like every other generic overseas manufactured coilover. They come with higher front spring rates, unless you asked for otherwise, but who are we kidding. Now because of these front rates being so high I would make the rear bar a priority over the front. Id advise an ST 7/8" or an ITR rear bar. For the front if you choose to get one, id suggest an OEM Si front bar.

The biggest deal here is the tires. If you truly want your car to perform, thats the first place to go besides basic maintenance.

Edit: Just so you know, I have an H22 Civic as well.

 

I like being the relative 'noob' here and showing kids whats up, haha.

I do need to find out the best sway bar for MY application though. But, I know how to do that on my own, haha.

I also have a 16L Cat Diesel in my Civic, think that will matter?

 

Isn't that engine the same size as a civic?

 

Nah... just a little bigger. I stretched the chassis to fit it, and put a custom widebody kit that I made out of plywood on the car. But, to make sure I got the proper acceleration I had to put a wing on the car... it doubles as a diving board for my pool.

LOL.

 

no spinner wheels?

 

No, Wal-mart didnt have any to fit my 10" wheels.

should see the adapter from the Cat engine to the EF trans! That took me a long time to widdle out of a tree stump!

But really, back to topic what swaybars would work for my application? Since I have a widebody kit, I need the widest sway bar available.

 

I am not bringing the wapping 60lb difference into play here but because of another problem i have been reading is that some have had problems with shift linkage in the ek and eg chassis. Some people said they were running a 22mm up to a 26mm sway bar and having problems... some say that have the same sizes and have no problems... So is this installation error or bad cable placement when ran into the cabin?

i dont know...

I wanted to run the 26mm si front sway bar and a itr 22mm rear sway bar. but i dont want go out and buy the stuff and not be able to use it. simply enough... just needed input on said sway bar options and info on above problem(s).

 

A) If you are not bringing engine weight into the matter, why bring it into the matter? (Oxy-moronic at the least)
B) Educate me in how a sway bar effects shifter linkages. Inquiring minds want to know.
C) Get on a creeper and crawl under your car for no less than 100 hours and then ask questions. If you do not know how a part affects your car, don't be looking into it. Plain as that.

I mean really man. You are asking some VERY basic questions, that to me, show that you don't know your car. Go drive it, have some fun, push it to its limits on the track, then come back for more. Add stickeier tires, repeat. Add a sway bar, repeat. Add better coilovers, repeat. Its all about your driving level and skill level.

The sway bar won't do JACK if you can't drive it. Heck, if you get too big of one in the rear, and you don't know the effect it has on the car, you'll probably spin *** end into a wall.

Experience first. Parts Second.

 

a) why bring camber kit, wheels, control arms, and integra spindles..... because i just listed stuff from my set up that does/would change handling characteristics.
b) you have to run the linkage over the sway bar. so depending on sway bar size and cable selection, i am assuming it gets pinched (from what people have stated in other threads) and gives a less than fantastic gear selection.
c)no reason to even reply to this, just a ignorant statement on your part.

 

Ignorant on my part eh? If you say so. All I have to say is learn how to drive the car, then figure out what parts you NEED. Bet at an AutoX you would be just fine taking the front bar off and running a stock rear bar. But, how would you know, you've never been to an AutoX, much less a track. At a track, its a different story. You could have a different sway bar for each track.

Point being, there is no single, heaven sent sway bar, specifically for ANYONE's setup. That said, go find the one that suits you.

 

Im not 100% sure on the front sway. My cables go above the subframe and I dont think would ever make contact with a front sway.

If you cant get tires and are hellbent on sway bars, definitely get a rear bar first (and lose the beaks).