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Old Oct 6, 2010 | 09:08 PM
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Whats up fellas? Im looking for some input on a small build im doing with my top end. I have everything decided on besides whether or not I should upgrade my valves or not right now. Like I said im in for input on brands, I have been looking into supertech quite a bit, good prices and good reputation from what I have seen and heard. The reason I am looking to upgrade is I dont want broken valve stems to ruin my motor.

As it sits now:
82mm GSR block
PR3 pistons, GSR crank and rods (11.4:1 CR)
B16 head w/ ITR cams and S2 gears
Stock IM/TB/Injectors
RMF narrow header
Short Ram Intake
Apexi ws2 exhaust
B16 s2c tranny w/ LSD
ACT streetlite flywheel
Exedy stage 2 clutch and PP
175whp 130tq w/ exhaust on. My tuner said open header he sees anywhere from 10-15whp gains over the ws2 catback. **** poor flow apparently. The cams even stopped making power at 8150 because of this.

What I plan on running:

BBK performance IM and TB portmatched
DSM injectors
Skunk2 Pro 1 cams
Supertech Valve-springs and ti retainers
Supertech or Brian Crower valves???

I will be boosting this car in the future (i need the $$ to sleeve my LS block and build it) so thats why some of these parts are chosen over others...I just wanna play with this motor while I build my other. My goal is 200whp with the exhaust on.

Thanks for input and if you have any further questions ask away.
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Old Oct 6, 2010 | 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by 93egSLEEPER
Whats up fellas? Im looking for some input on a small build im doing with my top end. I have everything decided on besides whether or not I should upgrade my valves or not right now. Like I said im in for input on brands, I have been looking into supertech quite a bit, good prices and good reputation from what I have seen and heard. The reason I am looking to upgrade is I dont want broken valve stems to ruin my motor.

As it sits now:
82mm GSR block
PR3 pistons, GSR crank and rods (11.4:1 CR)
B16 head w/ ITR cams and S2 gears
Stock IM/TB/Injectors
RMF narrow header
Short Ram Intake
Apexi ws2 exhaust
B16 s2c tranny w/ LSD
ACT streetlite flywheel
Exedy stage 2 clutch and PP
175whp 130tq w/ exhaust on. My tuner said open header he sees anywhere from 10-15whp gains over the ws2 catback. **** poor flow apparently. The cams even stopped making power at 8150 because of this.

What I plan on running:

BBK performance IM and TB portmatched
DSM injectors
Skunk2 Pro 1 cams
Supertech Valve-springs and ti retainers
Supertech or Brian Crower valves???

I will be boosting this car in the future (i need the $$ to sleeve my LS block and build it) so thats why some of these parts are chosen over others...I just wanna play with this motor while I build my other. My goal is 200whp with the exhaust on.

Thanks for input and if you have any further questions ask away.
OEM valves are pretty good, they stand up to 400+ hp turbo builds so why wouldn't they be adequate for an all motor setup. Have yours cleaned and inspected, if they are withing specs then reuse them.
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Old Oct 6, 2010 | 11:04 PM
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Default Re: Upgrade Valves?

Might even want to consider Pro2s with that kind of compression....

All depends on what kind of driving you do with the car (when you're not playing with it).
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Old Oct 6, 2010 | 11:06 PM
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I got the supertech flat face valves... Love em
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Old Oct 6, 2010 | 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by collin-eg2
I got the supertech flat face valves... Love em
The goal here isn't a review of valves.

If you're questioning whether or not to use OEM valves, if they're within spec, I'd think they'd be good to go.

If aftermarket valves are something you're going to get, anyway, there's no reason NOT to get them.

There is one philosophy that I subscribe to (when possible): Get your valvetrain, cams, etc from the SAME mfr. If something goes wrong, it's a LOT easier to get them to take care of it!
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Old Oct 6, 2010 | 11:32 PM
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Just sayin i've had no problems... But yeah stock valves should be good for your 200whp goal
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Old Oct 7, 2010 | 12:11 AM
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Originally Posted by 93egSLEEPER
PR3 pistons, GSR crank and rods (11.4:1 CR)
RMF narrow header
Skunk2 Pro 1 cams

I will be boosting...

Thanks for input and if you have any further questions ask away.
What a waste if you're boosting......
I wish more people had the love of a lopey idling four cylinder honda motor as i do.
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Old Oct 7, 2010 | 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by bambam
What a waste if you're boosting......
I wish more people had the love of a lopey idling four cylinder honda motor as i do.
Ill be boosting a completely different block.
84mm LS GE sleeved
Manley turbo tuff ibeams
CP 9:1 pistons

Ill sell the block I have in now OR keep it as a backup. Not sure yet. I am buying everything for the top end that will be used on the turbo build just to play with the motor I have. My goal is 600+whp on race gas and less then 25psi of boost.
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