Anyone know, on average, the price of a 10 or 12 point roll cage? (NOT BOLT-IN)


[Modified by stlboarder, 11:21 PM 9/19/2002]

 

can someone tell me where the convention of getting a 10-12pt cage is coming from? seems like a lot of newbies think this is what they need...

 

The WRC is gaining popularity with the blingers due to the mAd dRiFtInG y0! WRC cars have many points so that MUST be the key to drifting . . .


To answer the original question (so I am not accused of being a dick):
If you are running a professional series then money is not important since you can afford whatever it costs. If you are running in an amateur series the price is not really important because no one allows a 10-12 point cage in the more "budget-minded" classes. 8 points is the max partner.

 

You dick!

 

Bitch!

 

stlboarder,

In most production based road racing in NA the limit is usually 8 pts. If your pts. are actually plates welded to the tub (which they should be) then you can have multiple tubes attached at one plate and it counts as one point. You should let people know the area where you live as that will help with a ballpark price for your cage. This is because depending on how popular racing in your area is you maybe able to get a competitive price if their is more than one fabricator.

Don't be afraid to ask questions, some of the boardmembers think that they can reply with any ******* comment and that it doesn't matter, when in fact it does.

Victor Penner

 

Easy now, GIRLS!

 

First thing... I'm not a newbie. Next thing... y doesn't someone just answer the question. How do u know I'm not just comparing price between where I live and where u live?!

Anyway... sorry for getting on the "soap box".

Thanks for the usfull info by the way.


[Modified by stlboarder, 12:20 AM 9/20/2002]

 

I am in the process of a 12pt custom cage... it is a touch under $3,000 in Grand Rapids Michigan

 

Thank-you for answering the question. I just thought of another question I have thinking about. How do u paint the cage? I mean... do u strip the whole interior and paint it, or what?

 

its a hard question to answer. theres no set price, especially for a custom welded cage. if you werent a newbie, youd know this quite frankly. a decent custom cage of 6 to 8 pts is gonna cost at least a couple hundred in steel alone, more like $1000 for nice DOM and depending on what weight your car is, which you didnt specify, because it matters how thick tubing you need. so if you arent paying by beers, then expect to pay at least $1500-4000 on top of that just for a 6-8 pt cage professionally done, which all us "Road racing/autocross" (not even autocross) ppl here have to deal with. now for extra 10-12 pt rally cage, go to specialstage.com for expert rally advice, they have different needs. just what exactly are YOUR needs? then maybe we can REALLY answer your "question".

this question alone tells me everything about you. how exactly were you planning on welding a 10-12 pt cage without stripping the interior anyway?


[Modified by Tyson, 4:56 PM 9/19/2002]

 

It's this kind of question that has the rest of "us" wondering!

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=277184


[Modified by Zygspeed, 7:48 PM 9/19/2002]

 

Tyson brings up a good point. All new cages in SCCA must be DOM starting in 2003 so if you have a cage made with ERW and you do not have a logbook yet you will be out of luck. In Vancouver Canada an 8pt cage is can$1500-2500.

Victor Penner

 

The reason why I didn't give any price is because I don't know what a 10-12 point costs. I can tell you how much for a Grand-Am/Motorola cup 8-point though. Why? Because most all the cages I have seen built, and all the cages I have priced are 8 point since that is what *most* classes will allow.


The problem is not enough info. A 10-12 point cage is not descriptive enough. What is it going in? What is the intended purpose? What class? etc. etc. etc.


Accurate and concise answers require accurate and concise questions . . .


Victor:
If this comment was directed at me then might I direct you to my post where I gave him the exact info as you regarding the number of points.

 

3000 HOLY COWW.....i'll stick with my 6 point!!!! for 3000 i'd customize it myself!!!

 

Even a 'basic' cutom 6 point will cost you about $3k in the San Francisco Bay area.

 

alright... thanks for answering the question and I'm sorry that I didn't give u guys enough information.

By the way, just because I'm not a newbie doesn't mean I know everything. Do you know everything there is to know about cars? Maybe I have never had to deal with roll-cages before? Ever thing of it from the other person's perspective?

And Tyson... since u can tell everything about me... enlighten me. What do u know about me?

 

That $3,000 is coming from one of the best cage builders this side of the missippi, completely custom designed... He doesnt charge for materials either, only labor. He did the cage in the factory protege gp2 rally car, as well as some other famous vehicles. This cage is for SCCA Pro Rally, so it is well gussted as well as reinforced.

As far as painting, when I painted the 8pt bolt in cage in my old scirocco ITB car, we went to lowes, and bought a roll of masking paper, 8 cans of primer and cheap white spray paint. We did the entire interior.. It took us 2 days, and we had to do the tubes facing the windows with a brush.. It looked nice though

 

As noted, anywhere from $1500-$10,000 depending on design, location, etc.

A few points to consider:
1. Most fabricators are NOT engineers by trade. Those that are engineers will charge WAY more.
2. Chromo costs more. But the benefits are limited.
3. Car weight is important - most sanctions base tube size on car weight.
4. Type of racing is important - SCCA SSx, ITx, and Tx allow 6 or 8 (where 7 and 8 are from the front hoop to the firewall only). SCCA xP, GTx allow more. SCCA Rally allows even more than that.
5. Circle track guys cost less, but you might have to give them the GCR.

What was the question again?

 

why not just tape the windows?

oh and stlboarder, nothin' wrong with bein' a n00b,
A foolish man knows not what he knows,
and a wise man knows what he knows not.
(BTW, applies ta' gals to!)

 

also dont forget that when you go to 12 point say bye bye to your intact dash, because you have to go through dash the connect to front strut towers
Hell you do that too with 8 point (depending on regulations for what kinda of racing you are going to doing)
You need to tell us what kinda racing you are doing for people to help you

 

who is doing the work for you? I am looking into a 8point cage...