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Trans Cooler - necessary???

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Old Oct 4, 2010 | 10:24 AM
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Hi,
I have a 02 Accord EX-V6 sedan with 126k miles. My trans was replaced @ 98k by honda dealer under extended warranty. I was thinking of adding a trans cooler as insurance on my 2nd trans.

Is it worth the time and effort to install one. Will the cooler increase the life of my 2nd trans? I was looking at a Hayden.

What do you guys thinks. Thanks.
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Old Oct 4, 2010 | 10:40 AM
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Just keep on top of fluid changes and you'll be fine.
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Old Oct 4, 2010 | 11:09 AM
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The transmission oil warms up mostly when the torque convertor is not locked-up: during moderate to heavy acceleration, uphill driving or towing a trailer.

Under normal driving conditions the torque convertor is locked-up which means there is no power loss due to the slipping internals (vane/stator) in the torque convertor. It is this power loss that could cause the warming up of the transmission fluid.
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Old Oct 4, 2010 | 12:48 PM
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Go for it. It will DEF increase the life of your transmission. I need to get one sometime.

I've seen firsthand tranny coolers extend the life of transmissions, especially on mid 90's chrysler transmissions. Don't forget you'll have to add a bit more tranny fluid since there is more tubing.
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Old Oct 4, 2010 | 01:53 PM
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an external tranny cooler would definitely help. you should also make sure they install an inline filter in the tranny lines. this filter will help clean the transmission fluid better.
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Old Oct 5, 2010 | 05:43 AM
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If you want your tranny to last longer, ditch the Z1 for some high-quality Dex/Merc III. The Z1 is garbage unless your only goal is soft shifts and short tranny life.

If you do want to use the Z1, I would change it ever 5-7.5K.
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Old Oct 5, 2010 | 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by jdadams12
If you want your tranny to last longer, ditch the Z1 for some high-quality Dex/Merc III. The Z1 is garbage unless your only goal is soft shifts and short tranny life.

If you do want to use the Z1, I would change it ever 5-7.5K.

CASTROL DEX/MERC DOMESTIC MULTIVEHICLE AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION FLUID IS FOR USE IN OLDER FORD & GENERAL MOTORS VEHICLES.

per: http://www.castrol.com/castrol/secti...tentId=7027043

NOT Honda's - stick to Honda ATF
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Old Oct 5, 2010 | 04:54 PM
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Sorry I couldn't let this pass. 95 EX 4 cyl auto trans....361,xxxx miles on orig trans, it has only seen OEM fluid. Part of it's life it towed a bass boat. Now it just gets me to work and back every day, got the Pilot for towing now.
An added cooler will help. I personally would stay with OE Fluid.
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Old Oct 6, 2010 | 05:21 AM
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Thanks to all. I always change trans fuild every 30k with honda ATF. I think I will add trans cooler for piece of mind - cant hurt?
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Old Oct 6, 2010 | 01:59 PM
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I might only have 300K on my tranny, but it has only ever seen dex/merc III. The honda fluid is just dex/merc III with a bunch (even more since dex/merc already has some) of Friction Modifiers added for soft shifts. The Z1 is OK as long as it doesn't get too hot and is changed regularly - it is a medium-quality base, as best. The Honda Recommended change interval is way too long. Switch to a high qualiy dex/merc and see how much the metal shavings are cut down on your drain plug.

...but soft shifts ride nice when selling a car.

I said high quality, not Castrol. It matters.
http://www.redlineoil.com/product.aspx?pid=51&pcid=9
http://www.amsoil.com/storefront/atf.aspx

BTW - Honda doesn't make their own trans fluids. If you search around well enough, you can find out exactly what it is, as a base, and what is put in at at the fluid converter.
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