Ive seen 2 others in the last 10 years so i dont think its a fake. When and why did they make them. if you dont know dont reply[ATTACH]164949

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Well p61 is the USDM 92-93 GSR parts code. Its a USDM valve cover for sure.

 

Someone engraved that.

 

Ive seen 2 of these in the last 10 to 12 years so i dont think its a fake. It looks like its has been cut and welded. The p61 is 92 to 93 GSR did they have the b17 in japan i dont think they did.

 

No they did not. USDM only. Mugen is a japan based business. So the original owner would have taken this and sent it to japan. Does mugen even do that? Or do they sell their OWN valvecovers.

 

Before you could buy a mugen formula B-series valve cover they might have made a few of these. I keep thinking that someone had mugen build them a motor and wanted a valve cover with there name on it. But the p61 is a usdm part so someone here sent it to japan or honda sent it to them before it went on a motor.

 

Mugen made these for the general public that could afford one back in the early to mid 90's. They also had a non vtec single cam valve cover in the late 80's.. They retailed for $995.00

 

So this is a real mugen/honda part. How rare are they. Why would they use a p61 over a pr3.

 

Why do you care what casting was used?? It is rare and it doesnt look like a fake. You have a piece of Honda history. Not some ebay junk.

 

If your not BS me you just made my day. I dont care about the casting number i just dont know why or how they got ahold of a usdm cover

 

Well needless to say, if it is legit, it made a trip accross the pacific/atlantic, then made its way back. Pretty extensive trip. That thing has racked up a good amount of frequent flyer miles. Too bad you can't redeem them.

 

King Motorsports were the only ones to sell those. So it didnt go back & forth. They came directly from Mugen to King Motorsports.

 

Well seeing as THIS valve coved is a USDM casting, means it was made in the USA.

 

Not correct... It may have a USDM "Code". That does not mean it was cast in the US. It means that its original destination was for the US.

 

Looks like I need to talk to someone from king motorsports.

 

hope this is real, it would be cool piece of honda/mugen history.. try posting it in the mugen/group thread, i bet those guys could give you some info.

 

wheres that at mugen/group tread never seen it

 

Wouldnt it leak? on the left side where the gasket goes it just stops.

 

I dont know if it will leak im going to fix it if its a real mugen part

 

Well I emailed king motorsports and talked to scott zellner he said mugen never made a valve cover like this. So where did the valve covers come from I seen 10 years ago in sport compact car and import tuner they were the same as mine??? Im thinking he hasent been there all that long and wasent around when they had them.

 

dose mugen have like a contact number ? / email ... i dont know anything about the company itself never realy paid attention to it

 

Unfortunately, Scott has been at King for many years.. IIRC he now owns King. I am not 100%. He is a total douche IMO. Hated dealing with him back in the 80's. Took 6 months to get a Mugen cam for my d16 from him. He always had some excuse as to why it didnt ship. Canceled another $4k order around the same time for my EW engine.. But since King was the ONLY Mugen US distributor, people had to deal with him..

 

I've also seen valve covers like this over the years.

They might all come from the same place, but it's not Mugen.

This is a game of "prove it came from Mugen" not "prove it didn't come from Mugen".

Those D-series valve covers mentioned earlier are incredibly rare, as in I've never seen one not owned by Mugen, but people still know about them. meanwhile, no one legitimate with good information is stepping forward to say where this valve over is coming from.

You got one guy who says it's from Mugen, though he gives no backing to his claims.

You even have a guy who works for King Motorsports telling you this part is a fake, but you figure he's probably just too much of a noob to know.

Btw, regarding Scott Zellner:

http://www.kingmotorsports.com/t-about.aspx
The article goes on to mention happenings in 1988 and 1990, making this article appear chronological, which means Scott Zellner was hired in the late eighties or earlier, which would match up with the paragraph about 1987.
President and CEO of King Motorsports? Dude doesn't know what he's talking about! lol

I'm sorry, I know you are probably hopeful that this valve cover is real, but so far nothing is coming forward to show it is.

Sports Compact Car has had a lot of fake parts in it too. Just because it was published there doesn't mean it's real

 

http://www.mugen-power.com/

 

This valve cover is not a legitimate Mugen part. It looks like it was engraved at a machine shop. If you've seen others, they probably were done by the same company. Nobody bothers to do this sort of work anymore, so chances are it's from the mid to late 90's. Nowadays, all the fake stuff is procured en masse in Taiwan.