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Old Sep 28, 2010 | 08:29 PM
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whats up all you HT members ok heres the scoop...
PURCHASED my 92 da9 that had been involved in an accident the passenger front end was damaged enough that it shoved the radiator into the headers no frame damage but the radiator support is now sitting on the cross member bar the radiator support removal is still in progress. Now when i bought the car it ran for nearly a block before it took a dump i bought figured no biggie NOW IM STUCK lol at first it didnt crank not even a humming noise from the fuel pump no spark even my starter was out ...
heres the details on purchases n outcomes
1.PURCHASED OEM starter from honda-
OUTCOME started cranking no turn over saw the dizzy was giving no spark..
2.PURCHASED a Dizzy from a spot i have always gone to fix my tegs BASSET AUTO WRECKING CITY OF LA PUENTE-
OUTCOME spark but no start then i noticed no humm noise from my fuel pump also the car would backfire like bubbles from the throttle body
3. PURCHASED ngk spark plugs n wires
OUTCOME car was no longer spitting during cranking
4. PURCHASED OEM fuel pump from honda
OUTCOME fuel pump was now working n humming

KEEP IN MIND AFTER EACH PURCHASE I WOULD ATTEMPT TO START THE CAR BUT NOTHING JUST CRANK N SIGNS OF IMPROVEMENT NOW BACK TO MY CAR

so i have purchased every thing that would possibly solve my crank but no start problem. Now im stuck with what next this is the part where i need some assistance if i can get any feedback it would be greatly appreciated
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Old Sep 28, 2010 | 09:39 PM
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check timing, then compression
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Old Sep 28, 2010 | 11:01 PM
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say it was the timing would that not let it turn over .. ill check the compression i forgot about that duh
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Old Sep 29, 2010 | 12:58 AM
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Check your main relay.
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Old Sep 29, 2010 | 02:04 AM
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not my main relay i swapped the same relay from my other teg n it didnt start
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Old Sep 29, 2010 | 06:07 AM
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First thing I would do is determine if it is a no fuel or no spark problem.

Try and start the engine, 2-3 two second crank attempts, immediately pull a spark plug and look for signs of gas, [there is gas in the tank, right?] is the plug wet with gas, does it smell of gas, can you light it with a lighter?

If there is gas on the plug, plug the spark plug back into the spark plug lad and ground the plug and see what you get for a spark. 94
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Old Sep 29, 2010 | 11:33 AM
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First thing I would do is determine if it is a no fuel or no spark problem.

Try and start the engine, 2-3 two second crank attempts, immediately pull a spark plug and look for signs of gas, [there is gas in the tank, right?] is the plug wet with gas, does it smell of gas, can you light it with a lighter?

If there is gas on the plug, plug the spark plug back into the spark plug lad and ground the plug and see what you get for a spark. 94
yup theres gas in the tank lil more than 1/4 ... n there is no spark now wth!!!! u think the dizzy couldve gone bad ...
i gotta find the plug bolt to remove a spark plug i cnt find it ill feedback in a bit
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Old Oct 1, 2010 | 01:41 AM
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still havnt found a spark plug bolt thingy lol

umm but i removed my dizzy n took it apart when i tried to spin it it would get stuck or stop spinning i never seen a dizzy do that also my ignitor wasnt screwed in all the way the last mechanic just threw it in there

im taking coil n ignitor to auto zone to check if they work
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Old Oct 1, 2010 | 01:10 PM
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i was going through my engine bay n what i found was that in the bottom under the manifold there is a green plug hanging loose any ideas to where that might go
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Old Oct 1, 2010 | 07:03 PM
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under the intake manifold? sounds like the plug that goes into the power steering
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Old Oct 1, 2010 | 08:51 PM
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under the intake manifold? sounds like the plug that goes into the power steering
i was reading around n it seems to be a knock sensor from the b18..i have a b20b swap n some cases said it dnt have a clip for that sensor it just hangs there
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you have a pic of it?
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Old Oct 2, 2010 | 03:03 AM
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you have a pic of it?
no im working on that i use the net from my ps3
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Old Oct 2, 2010 | 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by JDM_JUNKIE_DA
i was reading around n it seems to be a knock sensor from the b18..i have a b20b swap n some cases said it dnt have a clip for that sensor it just hangs there
yea b20 dont use the plug ... on b18 does .. but i already noe what rong with it .. just give me a call .. i let u noe ... 100 percent i noe what is it .. and when it work u old me big time .. lol .. just call me i let u noe .. if iam not busy ..

i noe this becuz i had like 3 da9 and 1 db1 one of them was runnning a b20 too.. so iam pertty very good on cars.
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Old Oct 2, 2010 | 11:19 AM
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yea b20 dont use the plug ... on b18 does .. but i already noe what rong with it .. just give me a call .. i let u noe ... 100 percent i noe what is it .. and when it work u old me big time .. lol .. just call me i let u noe .. if iam not busy ..

i noe this becuz i had like 3 da9 and 1 db1 one of them was runnning a b20 too.. so iam pertty very good on cars.
aight sounds good ...ill pay up i dnt mind or watever
ill hit you up later today around 4pm..
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Old Oct 2, 2010 | 09:02 PM
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is the dizzy in the correct orientation? My buddy had the same issue and he turned his dizzy 180 deg and it fired right up..
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Originally Posted by momoEG9
yea b20 dont use the plug ... on b18 does .. but i already noe what rong with it .. just give me a call .. i let u noe ... 100 percent i noe what is it .. and when it work u old me big time .. lol .. just call me i let u noe .. if iam not busy ..

i noe this becuz i had like 3 da9 and 1 db1 one of them was runnning a b20 too.. so iam pertty very good on cars.
Are you sure? Your English is pretty bad.
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Old Oct 3, 2010 | 04:58 PM
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well the coil tested good but i couldnt test the igniter
dam this **** is frustrating
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Old Oct 3, 2010 | 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by sillyboi
is the dizzy in the correct orientation? My buddy had the same issue and he turned his dizzy 180 deg and it fired right up..
wat do u mean orientation
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Old Oct 3, 2010 | 06:21 PM
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Are you sure? Your English is pretty bad.
rofl.

but distributor can only go in one way on b-series. d-series motors can go in one of 2 ways though
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almost there i can feel it
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Have you determined yet if it is gas or spark that the engine does not have?94
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Have you determined yet if it is gas or spark that the engine does not have?94
its come down to no spark theres gas when i replaced the fuel pump there was gas inside i checked the fuel lines tn make sure there was gas going through n there is

just no spark
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Then I would check the coil and ICM.
Batt. voltage with ign key on, [black/yellow] at ICM
12V+ from coil to ICM, [probably blue lead or white/blue with VTEC] with ign key on.
Ground, probably black.


Have you confirmed that there is 12V+ to the distributor assembly, when ign. switch is in run and start?

Check all ign. power leads with ign. switch in both run and start. 94
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Then I would check the coil and ICM.
Batt. voltage with ign key on, [black/yellow] at ICM
12V+ from coil to ICM, [probably blue lead or white/blue with VTEC] with ign key on.
Ground, probably black.


Have you confirmed that there is 12V+ to the distributor assembly, when ign. switch is in run and start?

Check all ign. power leads with ign. switch in both run and start. 94
icm n coil tested good wat do u mean confirm 12v
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