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Old Sep 27, 2010 | 05:32 AM
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D16Y7 with current plans, of a high compression mini me build. Thanks to craigslist, ive already got the Y8 head, manifold, along with some NPR 75mm high compression pistons. I know I can continue buying parts on the cheap, and eventually piece it together. My question is....is it really worth tearing the motor down...installing pistons (with integra LS rods), and obviously the rest for the mini me build. Or should I just scratch that, and turbo charge my y7. I'm not gonna lie, I love a BOV sound!!!! I really don't beat up my car. I got arrested once for reckless driving, so I can honestly say I don't street race, and I always look 3 times before even going half throttle!!!! What do you all think? Any and all info is great. Thanks
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Old Sep 27, 2010 | 05:41 AM
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i would go to the forced induction section of HT. Hardly any one in GDD pushes a honda these days ( even tho i still have my integra).

Honestly if I were you i would sell the SOHC junk, buy a B series...bump compression, build head, decent size turbo, good tune, make 400 whp and still get 35 MPG on pump gas.
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Old Sep 27, 2010 | 05:44 AM
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Change motor, then turbo.
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Old Sep 27, 2010 | 05:48 AM
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Shoulda got a B16

Or be original and get an F22... then turbo charge that. 8lb of boost... 200WHP
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Old Sep 27, 2010 | 05:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Knightsport
Change motor, raise compression, then turbo.
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Old Sep 27, 2010 | 05:53 AM
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D-series NA is a waste of time. If you're on a budget, do rods/vitaras and turbo the d-series.
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Old Sep 27, 2010 | 06:19 AM
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The answer to your question, is BOTH. Run E85, boost, and 12:1 compression. PLZ.
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Old Sep 27, 2010 | 07:05 AM
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Yea, I wouldn't waste my time with the D motor.
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Old Sep 27, 2010 | 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by gofastgokart99
Honestly if I were you i would sell the SOHC junk, buy a B series...bump compression, build head, decent size turbo, good tune, make 400 whp and still get 35 MPG on pump gas.
Best advice other than selling the car and buying teh camero
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Old Sep 27, 2010 | 09:03 AM
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Don't build a SOHC.
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Old Sep 27, 2010 | 09:17 AM
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Both. High compression turbo with a good tune. 250whp never felt so good.
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Old Sep 27, 2010 | 11:08 AM
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Apparently I accidentally posted this in the wrong forum. For those with advice....thanks.


Anyways, now that I am in the correct forum....what do you all think? I wouldn't mind a B-series....im just not into installing new mounts, tranny, brackets, etc. It just seems like a mission. It may be easy... but I wouldn't know as Ive never done one. Any and all info is greatly appreciated. THANKS TO THOSE WITH ADVISE!!!!

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Old Sep 27, 2010 | 11:11 AM
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I would reccomend a turbo for you because a n/a d series is costly, much more than a decent turbo setup and the power isnt even worth it.

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Old Sep 27, 2010 | 01:11 PM
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n/a built d-series is expensive and not worth it
d-series turbo is a great setup with plenty of power for daily driving
n/a built b-series is expensive but is worth it
b-series VTEC turbo is expensive, a great setup and with PLENTY of power for daily driving
b-series non-vtec turbo is fairly priced and plenty of power for daily driving
h-series is tedious but its not too expensive and plenty of power for daily driving

as far as posting in the wrong forum, there's a reason why there's some sort of organization so things are easier to find. I know you're looking for answers but you looked for it in the wrong place

good luck
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Old Sep 27, 2010 | 02:26 PM
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just boost the **** out of it
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Old Sep 27, 2010 | 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by RCurioso88
n/a built d-series is expensive and not worth it
d-series turbo is a great setup with plenty of power for daily driving
n/a built b-series is expensive but is worth it
b-series VTEC turbo is expensive, a great setup and with PLENTY of power for daily driving
b-series non-vtec turbo is fairly priced and plenty of power for daily driving
h-series is tedious but its not too expensive and plenty of power for daily driving

as far as posting in the wrong forum, there's a reason why there's some sort of organization so things are easier to find. I know you're looking for answers but you looked for it in the wrong place

good luck
X2. d series NA is absolutely worthless. by the time you've gotten it fully built you probably wont put down much more power than a good ol b16a, and more than likely with the time and money you wasted on the d you could have thrown in a good b series motor and called it a day.
now a d on boost is a different story. just look at the 700whp d series wagon in supertstreet. you could easily get 300 on a turbo d with a good setup and tune and run it forever as a rather quick daily.
point is, the reason why people dont do NA d builds is just because its worthless. if you want to do it just to be different, more power to you, but prepare to be in many cars rear view mirrors.
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Old Sep 27, 2010 | 05:26 PM
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OP, you made a painful wrong turn into GDD. You'll be more welcome here. I cleaned up your thread. Just PM me if you'd also like the thread copied into the Force Induction subforum.
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Old Sep 28, 2010 | 05:19 AM
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Default Re: D16Y7 -- Turbo....or high compression?

Sounds like turbo is the clear winner here! I guess thats a good thing, b/c once I again I love the BOV sound (It actually turns my wife on when she hears one sound off!!!!) Anyways, anyone know how much power can i hold safely level with a stock y7. The block is in excellent condition. The motor does not tick, runs smooth, with A/C and PS. I really dont beat on it, but im sure with a turbo.....i'll be on it a little more than usual.
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Old Sep 28, 2010 | 05:21 AM
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Default Re: D16Y7 -- Turbo....or high compression?

Also...would it be worth it to do a mini me build...than turbo? Or would it be safer to get a good turbo kit and boost say 10psi? Does vtec react better to a turbo, or does a non-vtec react better to a tubo?
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Old Sep 28, 2010 | 05:25 AM
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turbo.....A d series tranny gear ratio works better on turbo
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Old Sep 28, 2010 | 05:32 AM
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Default Re: D16Y7 -- Turbo....or high compression?

Whats needed to swap a b series motor. I know mounts, engine, etc. I mean...do mounts have to be welded on, or would it bolt on to the stock d series? Does tranny line up the same, or does that have to be worked with also? Axles.....? linkage?
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Old Sep 28, 2010 | 06:15 AM
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go to hmotorsonline, they will sell you a full swap, and they have great customer service
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Old Sep 28, 2010 | 06:32 AM
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a bseries is a straight drop in. it'll bolt up, mount up, and wire up all the same. pretty easy drop in motor. takes about 2-3 hours after getting the other one out.
linkage you need special sometimes car dependent.

but to the original question. if you have the time and money i say throw on that mini me then turbo it. if moneys tight just turbo it. you can easily net 300+ hp with a daily D.
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Old Sep 28, 2010 | 08:32 AM
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An NA D series is a complete waste of time. If you want more power, turbo it. The stock engine is safe into that 220-240whp range and with a cheap Eagle/Vitara build, you're looking at a safe 400whp. Its your only option if you want to make any power
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Old Sep 28, 2010 | 01:42 PM
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Default Re: D16Y7 -- Turbo....or high compression?

Originally Posted by Mike_Rodriguez8
Also...would it be worth it to do a mini me build...than turbo?
I wouldn't. You can sell the mini-me stuff and invest it in better turbo parts that will make more power.
Originally Posted by Mike_Rodriguez8
Or would it be safer to get a good turbo kit and boost say 10psi? Does vtec react better to a turbo, or does a non-vtec react better to a tubo?
B-series vtec heads flow better than the non-vtec which is where the real advantage is at. D-Series vtec heads don't flow any better.

The actual VTEC system itself really doesn't have much of an effect on power on a turbo car IMO.
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you can easily net 300+ hp with a daily D.
Not on the stock bottom end.
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