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LS Head Cam Cap Woes....Advice Needed

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Old Sep 26, 2010 | 12:46 PM
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I picked up this ls head to build to build up so i didnt have to pop mine off the car and not be able to use it.

basically you can see in the picture where it appears like a piece of a cam cap has gotten stuck in the hole where the bolt goes. I tried to wiggle itout but its stuck in there like it was made for it.

this wouldnt be an issue if i had the right cap for it with the missing piece but i have a one thats in good shape lol.

i do not know how to proceed from here, should i modify the piece in the head or mess with the cam cap, or has anyone else had this problem and know what i should do. Im not tryng to pay a machine shop.

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Old Sep 26, 2010 | 01:34 PM
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Old Sep 26, 2010 | 02:27 PM
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Old Sep 26, 2010 | 05:38 PM
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Old Sep 27, 2010 | 09:03 AM
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Old Sep 27, 2010 | 10:12 AM
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Old Sep 27, 2010 | 12:08 PM
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It's just a dowel. Get a pair of needle nose and pull it out.
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Old Sep 27, 2010 | 12:50 PM
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wait so that is not the original cam cap that belonged in that spot?
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Old Sep 27, 2010 | 01:22 PM
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No it is, not the original cam cap but it is the proper replacement....its an e5 cap...i will try needle noise pliers but that sucker is stuck
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Old Sep 27, 2010 | 01:54 PM
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even though its the right cap you should measure it to make sure the clearance will be the same otherwise it will have to be realigned..all cams do not wear the same...
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Old Sep 27, 2010 | 02:57 PM
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I don't know what you mean by realigning
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even though its the right cap you should measure it to make sure the clearance will be the same otherwise it will have to be realigned..all cams do not wear the same...
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Old Sep 27, 2010 | 03:23 PM
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I don't know what you mean by realigning
The cam caps are machined on the head to which they belong in a process called align-bore. You should not install a cam cap that is not original to the head, unless you take the head to a machine shop and have it align bored to make certain that it has the proper clearances and fit.

That being said, I have known people get away without doing the machine work. It's really pure luck. The only way to make 100% sure that it will work is to align-bore.
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Old Sep 27, 2010 | 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by madjap
The cam caps are machined on the head to which they belong in a process called align-bore. You should not install a cam cap that is not original to the head, unless you take the head to a machine shop and have it align bored to make certain that it has the proper clearances and fit.

That being said, I have known people get away without doing the machine work. It's really pure luck. The only way to make 100% sure that it will work is to align-bore.
what are the reprecussions of using a cam cap not original to the head?
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Old Sep 27, 2010 | 04:32 PM
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No it is, not the original cam cap but it is the proper replacement....its an e5 cap...i will try needle noise pliers but that sucker is stuck

you can not just slap a cam cap on there and bolt it up expecting it to work. the clearances are most likely off. i suggest bringing to your machinest to check the clearance and align bore that to make sure it is good to go
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Old Sep 27, 2010 | 04:35 PM
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what are the reprecussions of using a cam cap not original to the head?

you are going to score the cams up hardcore if your clearances are off and you will ruin your journals that the cams ride in. basically throw your head out and get a new one if that happens because you can buy another used one for less than $150 when the machining is going to be over that amount
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Old Sep 27, 2010 | 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by fv8s
you are going to score the cams up hardcore if your clearances are off and you will ruin your journals that the cams ride in. basically throw your head out and get a new one if that happens because you can buy another used one for less than $150 when the machining is going to be over that amount
it was 30 bucks lol....id rather not machine it. thanks!
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do not just slap it on and run it. that is such a dumb idea imo. yet again its not my engine so do what you want
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Old Sep 28, 2010 | 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by fv8s
do not just slap it on and run it. that is such a dumb idea imo. yet again its not my engine so do what you want
i meant that its not a lot of money im out for it....thanks for the info
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