alright guys so iam getting my block built and it will be....

B18a1 Block 2.0L
84mm LA sleeves
Eagle Rods
Acl race bearings
Arps
9:1 Weisco Pistons
Micropolished LS Crank
OEM Headgasket
GSR Oil Pump
GSR Timing Belt
GSR Water Pump


B16 Head
Omni Titanium valve spring retainers
Skunk2 valves
Skunk2 Cam Gears
CTR Cams
Victor X Mani
BDL 70MM TB
STR Fuel Rail
Aeromotive FPR
RC 750s
Walboro 255 Fuel Pump

Exhaust 2.5 piping no cat

Intercooler piping is 2.5 as well

Tranny
B16 1st
B16 2nd
B16 3rd
Ls 4th
Ls 5th
Kaaz Lsd

Hondata S200
AEM Boost Controller


I either can go with my t3/t4 50 trim or i could sell that an get my friends Gt35R with a 63. hotside....
power goals are 450hp

this is my daily driver will rarly go to the track so i just want a very quick spool for the street....


what do you guys think???

 

s362 that way when your not happy with 450 you can make 600

whats 'very quick spool'?

 

iono anything around 3 rpms good for the street an iam kinda stuck between those two turbos cause if i get the 35 iam geetting it for reeaaal cheap

 

Do you have a turbo manifold yet?

 

yes just a cast iron mani i had a setup that was similiar to that one but stock block runing the t3t4 before but with this setup looking to get more power and was thinking about getting the 35....

 

I use a Garrett t3/to4e 63.a/r from a peak boost kit.
I'm happy with the 57mm trim

 

whats your power level? and with how much psi??

iam trying to stay low on psi...just trying to keep it safe dont wanna blow this motor...

 

i'm running 11psi on a fully stock motor
Not sure on whp and wtq but i can make a sti Sweat abit, i give them a run for there money

My clutch keeps slipping (stock) so i end up a car and a half behide them

Planning on new clutch and 16 psi and beef up the internals 300whp+ with a stock head hopeing

 

oh icic well i wanna be able to just blow past stis haha... maybe run around 15psi?

 

I believe with a better clutch then stock i'd blow by them my guesstimate is i'm putting 240whp to 250whp on 11 psi , if i threw some cams and IM and mild head work prolly hit 280whp on 11psi with a retune , but yut again i'm guessing here so yeah.

 

I have a feeling that a 50 trim turbo will have trouble reaching 450whp, and a GT35R is on the complete opposite end of the spectrum.

Really what you have here would be a poor match for what youre looking to achieve.

you want 450 whp with spool @ 3k with a cast iron manifold?

Probably not going to happen.

in one case you have a 50 trim turbo and your cast iron manifold, which is an ok combo, but really youre limiting yourself if you want 450whp.

on the other hand, you want to mate a Gt35r turbo with your cast iron.. I have a feeling the flow of the manifold is going to have you waiting for boost for quite sometime.

Why dont you settle on a middle ground and upgrade your turbo manifold and find something smaller than a 35r and bigger than a 50 trim to get your 450.

 

yeah true cant wait for boost again =]

 

hmm well iam kinda stuck on money and my friend is going to give me that 35 for really cheap the reason why i wanted to go for it...so u suggest getting a better mani then running the 35?? and what do u mean like it will have boost lag or?

 

any other suggestions?

 

I would get the 35r, with your motor why limit yourself to future turbo purchase. We have a customer with a spooling log mani, 3 inch dp, 2.0l sleeved, stock gsr cams, Dual walbro, And he is putting out 620hp. Not bad for a log.

 

yeah true hmm now iam just worried about traction issues around that much hp if i do decide to go to 500....and considering this is my daily driver and i commute alot i need some decent tires that wont be bald in like 2 months haha....

 

youre going to have traction issues if you have that much power, or a turbo that spools at 3000 rpms.

 

yeah is there anything i can do about that?? i have lsd already..

 

also have a aem boost controller so maybe when i get it tuned my tuner can boost by gear?

 

traction bar, drag radials, slicks, boost by gear.

but really if you want big power go with the gt35r and find a good manifold to run with it other than the cast one you have.

 

i dont really want that much power anything between 400-500 is plenty just worried about traction and spool times thats all....cant wait for it though i miss boooost haha

 

a 35r will be overkill. I put down 490 on a 3076r (e85, 28psi). I run 28psi all the time, e85 is great

 

Its a FWD car, youre going to run into traction issues no matter what.

 

Neither turbo you've listed is a good choice for your power goal. The GT35r would be the better choice, but having said that, there are other turbos available which will make the power you want while incurring the least amount of lag.

You should look into the Borg Warner S256 or S258 and the GT3076r as those will be more your size. Personally, I would (and do) rock the Borg Warner because its a simple turbo with no water lines or finicky oiling system...not to mention, if you do have a problem, you aren't stuck with a Garrett Paperweight...I know they have a decent CHRA exchange program, but CHRA replacement on a Garrett is about 2x the cost of replacing a cartridge on the BW.

 

True. If a Garrett fails, you're stuck with a $1200 paper weight. If lag is of concern DO NOT go with a 35r even if it's cheap. The BW unit is good, you could also look into the Precision 5857. You can get a journal bearing one for about $800...