Still wrapping it up but overall its not like the hundreds of Civics and Integras that I've done K-series swaps to...funniest part was now I knew what some of the extra parts that (I usually throw out when doing a K-swap to Civic) are used for, like the piece from the Tranny thats used to hold the airbox lol.. no idea what the hell that was for, or the front bolt holes for the front mount !!!

Anyway, it was an experience, car is an 02 Type S with blown motor and I'm putting a built K24. Swapped motor out without releasing the freon in the AC by just tilting the motor. I pulled the motor out from the top too.

Can't wait to beat on the car with the new setup. I will keep the stock exhaust, will use a VAFC2 to tune it, trying to figure out which cheap header to use for the time being, most of the ones I want are for eliminating the cat converter which I dont really care to do.

Still trying to figure out which stereo to put in, I like thats it accepts a dual din and I like the DVD players, stock sub adn speakers are going in the garbage and I will revamp and whole new system.

Will just put some Comptech lowring springs for now, and I picked up a set of 17" 5x114 wheels with some nice 215/45 ZR 17 tires... I hear you can go 225 on the tires, so I may upgrade later, lets see how it fits with the lower Comptech springs.

I'm still trying to figure out the color of this RSX, its like a grayish wine color... I have to get a new front bumper since this one is cracked.


here are some pics:

http://gbrtuning.com/K24RSX.jpg
http://gbrtuning.com/K24RSX2.jpg
http://gbrtuning.com/K20FUBAR.jpg
http://gbrtuning.com/K24BUILTLONGBLOCK.jpg
http://gbrtuning.com/K24BUILTHEAD.jpg
http://gbrtuning.com/K24BUILT.jpg
http://gbrtuning.com/K24BUILT1.jpg

 

 

have you used vafc to tune any k-series engine.? with what looks to be high comp. k24 motor i dont think youll get very far, if anywhere with a vafc2.

 

LMAO jb...kids these days....

yeah ummmmm, you cannot use VAFC2 to tune the rsx...you will need either kpro or aem ems or some other type of ems to tune the car...this would also allow you to bypass the CEL you would normally receive from putting a race header on your car...

and you work for this GBRtuning in NJ?

 

x4, you can't/don't want to use a VAFC2 to tune with

 

Yes, i have used the 2nd gen VAFC to tune three high compression k24 setups already, ive used DSM injectors (as high as 440cc) and made anywhere from 260 to 280whp. I have two kpros but i use them in my EG race car and turbo k20 integra.
i was able to get away with the factory PRB ecu timing(as high as 31advanced) with 93 octane without knock. I wanted to use the jdm prc ecu as well but that factory map goes to 34advanced which might be too high.

I really didnt care to waste a kpro or aem ems on a daily driver. Ive tuned on a lot of kpros and aems, this is such a simple factory setup with 12:1 compression, it just needs more fuel and thats what the vafc2 will be used for.

Yes the setup could make more power, but thats not my goal for this project. If i want more hp i will drive my k24 EG.

Obviously it takes experience to do this setup, i dont think just any regular person should be trying it.

 

you do realize tha VAFC is not a tuning tool, all you are doing is changing vtec engagement, slight cam advancement and monitoring A/F ratio...there is no tuning done there....440cc injectors are poop for high compression k24 builds!

 

hi, thats actually not correct. The vafc2 allows you to change the injector pulse by tricking the map sensor signal, allowing you to change the fuel delivery based on "load" (it uses throttle position and map sensor to determine load)... it even has an input for the VTC cam signal in the ivtec motors. additional features are vtec xover, etc.
I use the a/f from the factory wideband to tune. i also have an aem wideband on a sniffer to verify the right a/f

i have tried as big as 550cc injectors and it has worked fine.

here is a link if you want to read more on the vafc. its just a cheaper alternative if you dont care to change ign timing which can give more power and low end torque.

typically thats why people always recommend an ems or kpro for the k-series, but if you dont plan on changing timing maps, vtc cam angles or increasing a rev limiter then you dont need it. in this case i dont care about those 3 things as the factory prb maps are perfect except for the fuel ratio. Obviousy there are alot more features that the kpro an ems have as well.

hopefully this is clearer to everyone in case they didnt understand, pm me i can help explain.

http://www.inlinefour.com/apexivafc2.html

 

ya i know what it is, it does basically the same thing as reflash except reflash is cheaper...imo i would rather have something on-board rather than plug and play...and its still not a tuning tool... so you dont dyno tune anything?

 

i think the easiest way to do a k swap on rsx ep3s is just loosening mounts and dropping the subframe....only 4 bolts and done...i thinks its easier the a bswap cause that damn bitch pin on the linkage is always a nighmare...specialy when you forget and have to go under the car with a tiny hammer and punch...when the engine is in the floor..

 

its more than 4 bolts to drop the sub-frame but yes there are 4 main bolts to remove and i agree that is the easiest way to do it.

 

Hi, yes you actually tune by rpm band, ie 2k, 3k, 4k in non vtec then 5k to 8k in vtec. You do it usually at dyno or street tune on highway, preferably the former.

For me, the vafc2 is leftovern series stuff that i had...so didnt need reflash as they wont have it ideal for this setup, at least this is tuned for af ratio of this setup.



I hear that about the b series shift linkage. I didnt have a lift..

 

K series is easy either way imo. I pulled my motor up and out with incredible ease and the peace of mind that I didn't touch the subframe. Not having 15+ years of rust like most eg's helps too.

 

you still have to remove the rear motor mount which attached to the back of the subframe

 

hahaha, I've seen the hammer action, lol... Hot freakin' summer nights in AZ, underneath the car... hahaha...

 

still think its stupid

 

Okay, I maaaaay have touched it literally, very lovingly.

 

I also forgot to mention that I didn't use a PRB or Z3 head, I ended up using a CRV head and locking the pins for one valve in each pocket (since there are no LMAs in the CRV head). idles like a kitten. CRV head also flows slightly more than a PRB(Type S head).
We in the allmotor race class do a lot of worked CRV and PRB heads when getting them ported and use the single lobe race cams on most of our 102/103mm stroker motors, so it doesnt matter about the LMAs. The Z3/RBB/RBC heads although them have the 36mm oversized valves fromt he factory, when (over)porting you come really close to teh coolant jacket walls, thats why the racers dont use those heads as much. the PRB heads are usually the best.

Also, I wonder why Honda didnt put a flange to connect/disconnet right before the cat converter (similar to the Integras/Civics). Its sucks that the connector is halfway on the downpipe.

For the top piece headers, have people noticed a lot of power increase from jsut replacing the top piece with some of the ones out there? or is it just a waste of time?

 

cheetah
you know you can modify stock k20a2 and other "vtec" k series injectors to 510-520cc right..just letting you know.(k24a2,k20a2,k20a)

there is a wafer on the end.grind it offf around the edges. honda did it for emissions reasons.

there is a sticky on k20a.org about it. its real easy.
i did it. used kpro to change injector size to 520cc. workx fine.

chunky on k20 and HT came up with the idea i think.

 

thanks, I didnt know about that ... I can probably experiment with the xtra k-series injectors I have to see if it works.
this would save me from wiring in resistor box and changing injector pigtails.

 

it works, that's what i am doing in the mean time til i can get some ID725's

 

here is the link
you might have to register.

http://www.xproductionz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3769

 

Haha you guys are telling cheetah how to tune and that a vafc wont work! Lol

 

thx for the link.

ok so i guess I really didn't know all the features the RSX-S has...I never knew there was a 6disc changer in there lol ...

so how many have actually removed the deck, and installed the Metra double din kit and a double din deck, amp output to run another sub and upgraded the stock speakers?

or do most people just keep the stock deck?

 

stock sound system sucks,