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Old Sep 15, 2010 | 06:40 PM
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havent found anything that looked like what I am hearing posted on here, so here goes, my car has a H22a4, with the 5 speed, seems that it has a nasty whine noise that goes along with the speed of the car, in gear.. is there a common issue with this, or just something I have that is messed up..

The motor and trans are in a 95 civic hatch, but I figured this would be the place to ask..


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Old Sep 16, 2010 | 02:07 PM
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Guess this is a not so common issue...
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Old Sep 16, 2010 | 04:27 PM
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You should describe the "whine" a little better. What exactly does it sound like? Does the "whine" change as you shift gears, matching RPMs? Or are you saying that the "whine" is directly proportional to the car's velocity?

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Old Sep 16, 2010 | 07:56 PM
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Are the gears straight cut haha?
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Old Sep 16, 2010 | 08:02 PM
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^ Haha, if that's the case.. I wish I had more problems like yours.
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Old Sep 16, 2010 | 11:12 PM
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Is this a new swap? are your axles sitting comfortably, or are they overly tight against the outputs on your trans?? are you missing any bolts into the transmission?? if so it could be a missing gear stack center shaft anchor bolt.. that'd make a whine.. C'mon, be specific lol
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Old Sep 17, 2010 | 05:51 AM
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Sorry, if it was alittle general. The whine is matched to my cars speed, same noise most old Toyota trucks make, yes kinda like small straight cut gears!! Axles look decent, trans has fluid... Kinda lost...
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Old Sep 17, 2010 | 06:55 AM
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Input shaft bearing in tranny... unless you know how to rebuild trannys or know someone that does your better off replacing the tranny
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Old Sep 17, 2010 | 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Kronn 98SH
You should describe the "whine" a little better. What exactly does it sound like? Does the "whine" change as you shift gears, matching RPMs? Or are you saying that the "whine" is directly proportional to the car's velocity?

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Hahaha you are such a Dick!!! I love it!
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Old Sep 17, 2010 | 09:35 AM
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Well if it matches the vehicle's speed, I'd guess it's not the tranny. Axle or suspension related.
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Old Sep 17, 2010 | 10:01 AM
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I'm going to look into that input shaft bearing, what do you think about the throw out bearing, for the clutch, could that cause it? I noticed it has a slight rattle sound when in neutral with the clutch engaged... Might be it, thanks for the help... I'll post what I find when I remove the trans.
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Old Sep 17, 2010 | 10:06 AM
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It's the input shaft bearing I'm almost positive. If it was the throw out bearing it would wine when the clutch is engaged
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A bad throwout bearing sounds like a cricket chirping. It typically makes the sound when the clutch pedal is NOT pressed.
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Old Sep 17, 2010 | 11:58 AM
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A whine matched to the car's speed is most likely differential bearings, but could be a countershaft bearing. The diff and the countershaft are the only parts of the trans that move at the same rpm as the wheels.

If the whine was matched to engine rpm, I'd say it could be a throwout or input shaft bearing.

Expect to pay about $500 for a differential bearing service.
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Old Sep 17, 2010 | 01:37 PM
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Thanks for the advice! I'm going to get another trans, and try fixing this one myself.
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Old Sep 17, 2010 | 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Kronn 98SH
A bad throwout bearing sounds like a cricket chirping. It typically makes the sound when the clutch pedal is NOT pressed.
How would a throw out bearing make noise when its not being used????
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Old Sep 17, 2010 | 02:30 PM
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Input shaft bearing in tranny... unless you know how to rebuild trannys or know someone that does your better off replacing the tranny
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It's the input shaft bearing I'm almost positive. If it was the throw out bearing it would wine when the clutch is engaged
Dang, given this information I think I need to get a new tranny haha. I have a whine when in gear and i've long thought it must've been the input shaft bearing. Just recently I've been hearing that chirping sound as well. I do have an extra throw out bearing but not a tranny *sigh*
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Old Sep 17, 2010 | 04:16 PM
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Well it can be both but if it whines In gear and sounds like a supercharger getting louder with the rpms its the input shaft bearing
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Old Sep 17, 2010 | 08:49 PM
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if the whine is matched to the cars speed it wouldn't be an input shaft bearing or throw out bearing.. a whine from either of those would match engine speed, not vehicle speed. but ya lol, sounds like it's time for a new transmission.. it's most likely on the output half of the trans.. good luck
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Old Sep 18, 2010 | 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by kaymoto
if the whine is matched to the cars speed it wouldn't be an input shaft bearing or throw out bearing.. a whine from either of those would match engine speed, not vehicle speed. but ya lol, sounds like it's time for a new transmission.. it's most likely on the output half of the trans.. good luck
A bad input shaft bearing will match vehicle speed if its in gear... I wasnt saying the Throw out bearing was his noise that would only make a noise when the clutch is engaged I was just saying both can be bad
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Old Sep 19, 2010 | 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by SteelcityLude
A bad input shaft bearing will match vehicle speed if its in gear
Still incorrect. With the clutch pedal released whether you're in gear or not, the input shaft will be spinning at engine rpm. Thus, a bad input shaft bearing would still make noise in neutral. Go take a look at my post above. Try and be more articulate w/all this, transmission work is expensive and getting that sucker in and out is a major bitch in a prelude.
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make sure the grounds on your speakers arent messed up.
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Old Sep 20, 2010 | 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Kronn 98SH
A bad throwout bearing sounds like a cricket chirping. It typically makes the sound when the clutch pedal is NOT pressed.
bingo, gf's miata just had this happen to her. To top it off we just replaced it and 5 months later it is doing it again. Throw out bearings are these symptoms exactly.
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Old Sep 21, 2010 | 08:21 AM
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Thanks again, I'll post up when I remove it, and let you know what it was..
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Old Sep 21, 2010 | 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by mgags7
Still incorrect. With the clutch pedal released whether you're in gear or not, the input shaft will be spinning at engine rpm. Thus, a bad input shaft bearing would still make noise in neutral. Go take a look at my post above. Try and be more articulate w/all this, transmission work is expensive and getting that sucker in and out is a major bitch in a prelude.

That makes sense I had this happen to me when I had my integra but it was diagnosed by a transmission shop as a bad ips although they did not pull the tranny to investigate they just drove it, when I pulled the tranny to replace it, I noticed the ips spun more freely than it should

Point is we had the same symptoms and its cheaper to replace the trans with a used one than rebuild it

BTW.... I am parting out my 94 lude with jdm h22 motor and trans... trans is perfect shape
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