Best tires for $400 shipped?
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Can anyone suggest a good set of regular tires for my Civic? What I'm looking for is:
Also, the car will not be going over 80mph. I'm in L.A. so I mostly deal with dry, pothole filled roads
So far I'm looking at:
Yokohama Avids
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....n&autoModClar=
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....n&autoModClar=
Thanks for any suggestions.
- Low Price
- Treadwear 45-60k would be nice (the car is babied)
- 205/55R16
- Decent wet traction
- Great dry traction
- Low noise
- Soft-moderate ride
Also, the car will not be going over 80mph. I'm in L.A. so I mostly deal with dry, pothole filled roads
So far I'm looking at:Yokohama Avids
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....n&autoModClar=
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....n&autoModClar=
Thanks for any suggestions.
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Thanks I'll check those out. BTW, the car has Bridgestones with a tread rating of 300AA and they lasted 35k. Will the Dunlops last longer?
If you don't mind having one of the worst tires in terms of wet traction, by all means, go with the Direzza DZ101.
Bridgestone makes a very decent tires called the G019 grid. 50K miles of treadlife, good traction on wet and dry roads, adequate snow traction (if that's the case for you). They are in stock for $90 each + shipping.
Bridgestone G019
Bridgestone makes a very decent tires called the G019 grid. 50K miles of treadlife, good traction on wet and dry roads, adequate snow traction (if that's the case for you). They are in stock for $90 each + shipping.
Bridgestone G019
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I think there's one very basic decision you need to make. Do you want summer tires, or all-season tires? Decent summer tires will give you the "great dry traction" you want, but they will probably last you 30-40K miles, rather than the 45-60K miles you say you're looking for. All-seasons will probably give you the 45-60K treadlife, but they won't give you the "great dry traction" of a summer tire.
If you want a good summer tire for under $400, you can get four of the Yokohama S.drive in 205/55-16 from Discount Tire Direct for $340 ($380 with free shipping, less the current $40 rebate promotion from Yokohama).
If you want a good all-season tire for under $400, you can get the Kumho Ecsta ASX in 205/55-16 from Discount Tire Direct for $332 with free shipping. Another good choice is the BFGoodrich g-Force Super Sport A/S, which will cost you $372 at Tire Rack; you'll get $60 back in a rebate from BFG but the Tire Rack will charge you shipping which will be roughly the same amount as the rebate.
If you want a good summer tire for under $400, you can get four of the Yokohama S.drive in 205/55-16 from Discount Tire Direct for $340 ($380 with free shipping, less the current $40 rebate promotion from Yokohama).
If you want a good all-season tire for under $400, you can get the Kumho Ecsta ASX in 205/55-16 from Discount Tire Direct for $332 with free shipping. Another good choice is the BFGoodrich g-Force Super Sport A/S, which will cost you $372 at Tire Rack; you'll get $60 back in a rebate from BFG but the Tire Rack will charge you shipping which will be roughly the same amount as the rebate.
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I'd definitely rather have long lasting tires. I don't bust corners in this car. It is a commuter and family car. Thanks for moving the thread. I totally forgot HT had a wheel/tire thread.
I'm seriously considering those Kumho's. Will they last longer than the S-drives? Big O tires has Yoko AS530s for $520 out the door without alignment. Is that a good deal?
I'm seriously considering those Kumho's. Will they last longer than the S-drives? Big O tires has Yoko AS530s for $520 out the door without alignment. Is that a good deal?
Kumho ecsta are awsome tire's they have lasted my slammed integra a very long time.I have owned them for a year now.I have drove from cali to nm twice i drive in the rain snow you name it and they have awsome grip.I would buy these tire's hands down for the rest of my life.Trust me man they dont get any better then that for your price range.
The AS530 is an all-season tire designed primarily for ride comfort and long treadlife, and its dry traction won't be as good as the previous recommendations. And it's more expensive, and I'm not sure exactly what you're getting for the extra money.
You'll typically pay $10-20/tire for mounting and balancing on top of the prices previously stated above. You can have tires mounted and balanced anywhere, not just at the place you buy them. On the Tire Rack website you can look up information about installers near you. Any tire dealer, car dealer, or independent mechanic can install tires purchased elsewhere. Wal-Mart tire departments can do so and typically charge at the low end of that price range.
Which Kumho Ecsta tire are you referring to? Kumho makes lots of different tires with the Ecsta name on it - everything from all-seasons such as the Ecsta ASX mentioned above, to supersticky summer tires like the Ecsta XS, and racetrack tires like the Ecsta V710.
He doesn't need all seasons. He's in S California. Having lived down there for a few years, summer tires with good wet traction will work just fine. I'm currently running S Drives during the 3 seasons and they're holding up great. About 10k miles on them and doesn't show much wear at all. Good dry and wet traction. With the current $40 promotion, I'd opt for these. Your local discount tire should be able to match the online pricing as well.
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I figured that I would have to pay about $60 to get them installed. Plus I do want the 3 year road hazard warranty so $50 for that. I also wouldn't mind paying a little extra so I wouldn't have to deal with the hassle. But it seems that Discount Tire Direct has included the warranty so $386+60 install=446 is a hell of a lot cheaper.
The only reason I was looking at the Yokos was because from reviews they seemed to have long tread life and good performance. Oh ya and like p nut says you get a $40 mail in rebate.
The only reason I was looking at the Yokos was because from reviews they seemed to have long tread life and good performance. Oh ya and like p nut says you get a $40 mail in rebate.
http://www.falkentire.com/Tires/Pass.../ZIEX-ZE-912-2
this is by far one of the best all around tires i have ever used without spending $200+ per tire.
I paid $70.86 each for them at Big-O after printing off an online price since they do price matching.
http://www.onlinetires.com/products/...e-912+91v.html
oh and stay away from Dunlop Direzza DZ101 they friggin suck. while im thinking of it stay away from nitto neo gens bfg g-force sports and damn near anything made by kumho
this is by far one of the best all around tires i have ever used without spending $200+ per tire.
I paid $70.86 each for them at Big-O after printing off an online price since they do price matching.
http://www.onlinetires.com/products/...e-912+91v.html
oh and stay away from Dunlop Direzza DZ101 they friggin suck. while im thinking of it stay away from nitto neo gens bfg g-force sports and damn near anything made by kumho
Seems like we're having an outbreak of bad information being posted here today.
I know that. However, he listed numerous requirements, one of which was a desire for treadlife of 45-60K miles. He won't get that from summer tires, but he can get that from all-season tires. However, all-seasons won't give him the performance that summer tires will. All of which I already stated. Don't you think it's a good idea to present the information and let him decide for himself which of his objectives he wants to trade off? 

That's very unusual.
Anyone who knows anything about tires knows that treadwear ratings don't mean a whole lot. For example, I don't get anywhere near as many miles from the Kumho SPT as the Yokohama ES100, on the same car with the exact same usage, even though the SPT has a higher treadwear rating than the ES100.
No, they don't. For example, I've used six different makes/models of summer tire on my non-tracked '94 GS-R, all with treadwear ratings at the high end for summer tires, and none of them has lasted more than 40K miles. And I usually get more treadlife from my tires than most people (thanks to a combination of frequent checking of pressures, regular rotations, and replacing them when I decide they need it rather than when the tire store says you need new ones).
I'm not saying this has never happened. But there isn't a single summer tire I know of for which the typical treadlife is over 40K miles. Not a one.
Look, I'm usually the first person to tell someone to get summer tires when they live in a climate that doesn't have snow or frigid cold. But when someone says they are looking for more treadlife than they can get from summer tires, they should at least know that they can get longer treadlife from all-seasons. Give them all the information and then let them make their own decision.
No, they don't. For example, I've used six different makes/models of summer tire on my non-tracked '94 GS-R, all with treadwear ratings at the high end for summer tires, and none of them has lasted more than 40K miles. And I usually get more treadlife from my tires than most people (thanks to a combination of frequent checking of pressures, regular rotations, and replacing them when I decide they need it rather than when the tire store says you need new ones).
I'm not saying this has never happened. But there isn't a single summer tire I know of for which the typical treadlife is over 40K miles. Not a one.
Look, I'm usually the first person to tell someone to get summer tires when they live in a climate that doesn't have snow or frigid cold. But when someone says they are looking for more treadlife than they can get from summer tires, they should at least know that they can get longer treadlife from all-seasons. Give them all the information and then let them make their own decision.
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Tires purchased from all authorized tire retailers, including mail order places like Tire Rack and Discount Tire Direct, are covered by the warranty from the tire manufacturer for manufacturing defects. They do not cover damaged caused by road conditions (potholes, debris, etc). The Tire Rack offers a road hazard warranty for 12 percent of the cost of a tire; it covers repairs up to $25 and replacements (full refund in the first year, prorated for two more years) or until the tire has 2/32" of tread. Discount Tire Direct offers a slightly different road hazard warranty for $12/tire; it does not cover repairs, but covers replacements (full refund or replacement) for three years or until the tire has 3/32" of tread. Personally, I've never felt that those optional warranties were worth their cost, but if you feel otherwise, feel free to get them.
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