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Old Sep 11, 2010 | 04:27 AM
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hello there

i have just recently purchased a 2001 civic type R. It was a salvage car and it is quite damaged however the running gear is ok which is what i bought it for

before i bought it it was fine, started up first time and such, it was then driven onto a recovery truck


however whilst on the recovery truck, the alarm went off, and continued to the whole way home

Got it back to my place and the fob wouldnt turn it off, i was supplied 2 keys/fobs with the car and neither would turn it off, tried key in the door and didnt work, tried starting it and got nothing as well

in the end the battery was dissconnected which turned the siren off (thankfully as parents werent too happy with that!)

now every time i reconnect the battery the alarm just goes off and i cant stop it, nor can i start the car. I have cut the siren off now so there is no noise but i need to get the car started so that i can move it

As i say it started fine for the previous owner and he drove it onto the toe truck so i dont know what has gone wrong? i have contacted him but he doesnt know too much about the problem

any help would be appreiciated. Its the standard honda alarm/immo as well not an after market

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Old Sep 11, 2010 | 08:55 AM
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Is it a factory alarm or some aftermarket? I leaning towards aftermarket since you said you cut the siren. Most factory alarms goes thru the factory horn.

Also some factory alarms are not factory. Its a piggy back system that reads the door lock and unlock wires and that provides control to trigger the aftermarket alarm system to activate.
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Old Sep 11, 2010 | 09:05 AM
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i think its a factory? fobs have the honda logo and writing on? also there is a honda cat 1 alarm leaflet in the bookpack but it is of little use

what should i do? just want to fire it up
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Old Sep 11, 2010 | 09:15 AM
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Look under the dash and see if you can see any alarm brain or something on the ignition harness. If its factory/aftermarket. Its not going to be hard to find. Post some pics of down there too.
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Old Sep 11, 2010 | 12:31 PM
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took a few bits off but cant find anything thus far, heres a pic -



what does an alarm brain look like as im not sure ive seen one before
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Old Sep 11, 2010 | 03:32 PM
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not to threadjack, but i want a right hand drive CTR!!
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Old Sep 11, 2010 | 03:53 PM
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they are all RHD here (in the UK) Lol

i think that white box might be the alarm brain box as it says honda security on? also mentions locks

what would i do with it?
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Old Sep 11, 2010 | 05:07 PM
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disconnecting the white box will only disable to factory alarm, keyless. the issue with the 2001+ civic is that the keys are chipped. try unplugging the white box and see if you can start the car, or if the green key on the gauge cluster stays lit up.
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Old Sep 12, 2010 | 03:10 AM
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the key light never comes on weather the box is plugged in or not

also another thing the central locking doesnt work unless i have the key turned in the ignition?

alarm hasnt stopped going off so far no matter what ive tried. when i try and start you get nothing at all so its just being completely blocked
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Old Sep 12, 2010 | 08:52 AM
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Looks like there is no aftermarket alarm. Look to the right of the dash and you should see a black box with a green plug markes factory alarm. Unplug it. Not sure why the car won't shut off with the key in the driver door.
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Old Sep 12, 2010 | 10:19 AM
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i cant see the blck box with green plugs? where abouts is it?

would there be any reason for the alarm malfunctioning on a tow truck? it was driven onto it after all, i dont get it
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Old Sep 12, 2010 | 11:32 AM
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sorry to hijack thread,(i tried pm-ing u brook but im not sure if it worked as im a new member) can someone tell me how to disconect the siren please, im very untechnical but my alarm keeps going off in the middle of the night and i just want to disconnect it.
thanks in advance for any help.
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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 04:25 AM
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youd be better off finding out what the problem is then just dissconecting the siren. what if your car what legitimately being broken into lol


anywhom i have found the alarm brain box and have removed it along with all its wiring. although it was in a completely different location to where you said, i think it might have been fitted by honda after it was purchased as its definatly not a factory job

the alarm no longer goes off. but the car still will not start. there are no key lights on the dash or anything. what would be the problem now?
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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 08:29 AM
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im not worried about it being stolen it isnt a type r i just want to shut it up
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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 09:48 AM
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so when you say no lights on the dash, do you mean nothing out of the ordinary, or there are NO lights that work? sounds like a lot of problems and you should just ship the car over here and let me play with it for a couple of years.
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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 10:59 AM
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theres a fuse you can remove denver to stop the siren that is your best option, i think you have a different set up alarm to me so you would have to find out exactly where it is

all the lights on the dash are fine, all power in the car is fine. i meant the key light doesnt come up on the dash

i think ripping the alarm out may have opened up a can of worms though

you wouldnt want this one, it has been rolled Lol (check the windscreen in the pic above). They are pretty cheap over here though you can pick one up for £3k - £3.5k. why would you want an RHD car in the US? was reading wrx's sig thread about that guying getting a conversion, surely its cheaper to just import a car?
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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 04:47 PM
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RHD in the states would be fun. and different. drove RHD in ireland for a couple of days one summer, and fell in love.

as far as your can of worms, it's entirely possible. sounds like a starter kill relay somewhere keeping it from starting. or an issue with the starter or starter wiring.
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Op, give me a call. I want you to try something but I not going to post it.
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Old Sep 14, 2010 | 12:56 AM
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I sent you a PM if thats alright as i am on the other side of the world lol cheers
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cheers brook
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Old Sep 14, 2010 | 01:48 PM
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It looks like the wiring colors are the same for your type-r as the US civics... You see the large brown plug under your steering wheel with the thicker wires in it? There should be a black wire with a white stripe. That is the starter wire. If the alarm was aftermarket, that wire is probably cut somewhere under that dash, and interrupted by a relay. Is it possible for you to trace that wire? If it is cut, remove the device installed in between the two cut sides of the wire, and put the wire back together. Do you have a digital multi meter?
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Old Sep 15, 2010 | 04:37 AM
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Originally Posted by joeymc13
It looks like the wiring colors are the same for your type-r as the US civics... You see the large brown plug under your steering wheel with the thicker wires in it? There should be a black wire with a white stripe. That is the starter wire. If the alarm was aftermarket, that wire is probably cut somewhere under that dash, and interrupted by a relay. Is it possible for you to trace that wire? If it is cut, remove the device installed in between the two cut sides of the wire, and put the wire back together. Do you have a digital multi meter?
YES!

hit the nail on the head! was intercepted by the fuse box. have re-connected it and it now turns over!

just need to get a jerry can of fuel now as the things got no petrol Lol

massive thanks to every that helped
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Old Sep 15, 2010 | 06:18 AM
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ok onto the next problem haha. Car cranks but does not fire up?
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Old Sep 15, 2010 | 11:44 AM
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Need to trouble shoot some more... Do you have a digital multi meter?
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Old Sep 15, 2010 | 11:51 AM
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I also need to know if the alarm was aftermarket, or oem... Was it plugged in with a 16 pin green connector, or did you have to cut seperate wires when you removed the alarm?
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